In some Christian contexts, it’s acceptable, even expected, to talk a lot about brokenness. But in some of those same spaces you might rarely hear the word “sin.” Are the two concepts interchangeable?

In this conversation, Jeremy Treat and Eric Thoennes discuss the relationship between brokenness and sin. We need to talk about both, they say, but we must define our terms. Thoennes explains that sin is an offense against a holy God, whereas brokenness is “a category that we use to describe the effects of sin.”

Treat considers “brokenness” to be a helpful category “not when it replaces talking about sin, but when it helps us understand more broadly the holistic effects of sin.”

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