At a recent TGC gathering of pastors Francis Chan, Mark Driscoll, and Joshua Harris sat down for a conversation. As Collin Hansen writes, “Brushing aside the planned discussion topic, Driscoll took charge of the conversation and says to Chan, ‘Everybody thinks you’re cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. You’ve got a good church going on and you hit the eject button and now you’re an international man of Fu Manchu mystery. What is going on? What are you thinking? And what’s going to happen to your church?’”

You can watch the candid 15-minute conversation here at the TGC site, which has been redesigned (and which you should bookmark and check regularly!).