9781433540837I really enjoyed the opportunity to sit down with Ray Ortlund, lead pastor of Immanuel Church in Nashville, to talk about his book, The Gospel: How the Church Portrays the Beauty of Christ (Crossway, 2014).

Ray is a man who loves the gospel and would love to see churches infused with both gospel doctrine and also gospel culture.

You can read more about and from the book here.

The Crossway blog included this helpful outline of timestamps from our conversation:

  • 00:00 – In the book, you talk about “gospel-doctrine” and “gospel-culture.” What do you mean by these terms?
  • 07:03 – You say that gospel-doctrine without gospel-culture equals hypocrisy. What does that look like?
  • 10:10 – You say that gospel-culture without gospel-doctrine equals fragility. What does that look like?
  • 11:32 – You say that gospel-doctrine with gospel-culture equals power. How do we have both of these?
  • 13:51 – Do you agree that, when the Holy Spirit works, there is much personal cost to God’s people?