Al Mohler recently had a substantive, fascinating conversation with Professor David Hollinger, the Preston Hotchkis Professor of History at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of After Cloven Tongues of Fire: Protestant Liberalism in Modern American History (Princeton University Press, 2013).

You can read the transcript or listen to the audio.

A couple of concepts you’ll come away with from this interview is that liberal Protestants achieved a cultural victory but an organizational defeat, and that the twin concepts of “cognitive demystification” and “demographic diversification” are important factors to remember in the development of America and religion.