For those of you who missed the Leadership and Compassion Forum, hosted by Rick Warren at Saddleback Church on Saturday, August 16… here are the videos from the evening, featuring both John McCain and Barack Obama answering questions from Pastor Rick Warren. (You can access the full transcript here and a nice side-by-side comparison of the candidates’ answers here.)

BARACK OBAMA WITH RICK WARREN AT SADDLEBACK CIVIL FORUM

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Part 5

Part 6

JOHN MCCAIN WITH RICK WARREN AT SADDLEBACK CIVIL FORUM

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167 thoughts on “Saddleback Forum Video & Transcript: Obama / McCain with Rick Warren”

  1. William Seidner says:

    This forum was most informative. One heck of a lot better at letting me get to know the candidates better than the 30 second TV ads and the spomcered TV debates. More forums of this nature will be a great help, I believe, for me to make an informed decision on who I vote for for the next preident. In fact forums of this nature would be of great help at the local, county and state level also in informing voters so they can make a better decision on whom they vote for. It seems a lot of us base our vote on the latest slam dunk 30 second TV political TV ads which is wrong to me when making decisions of this great inportance..
    After hearing both candidates today for President I still have not decided on who to vote for. I like them both! It seems to me they would make a great team as President and Vice President! BUT I KNOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE.
    I hope there will be more forums scheduled between now and election day to help me make a better informed decision.

  2. Thanks for this, buddy. I couldn’t remember all the stuff from yesterday for my post this morning, so I appreciated the vid’s. Interested stuff, eh? A bit more honest and in-depth than I anticipated, but not as much as I would have liked.

    Grace and Peace,
    Raffi

  3. Jim Jacobson says:

    This was the best format I have ever seen! Way to go Rick! The choice is clear.

  4. Barry says:

    I’m all for Obama (and I haven’t heard his part yet) but McCain did a good job. I liked a lot about what he said so I’m going to have to think harder about who I vote for this november

  5. Granny T says:

    The forum was very educational. Watching made me realize why Obama chickened out at McCain’s Townhall Meeting challenge. Obama doesn’t do very well without his teleprompter. Is he used to relying on his advisers for answering questions?

  6. Lance says:

    Obama knocked some into the outfield but McCain was putting one after another out into the pasture beyond the fence. I think the Republicans could have picked a more conservative leader but McCain will work just fine.

  7. nanc says:

    the transcripts, however, are a sham – all the “ers, ahs, ums, buts” etc. were left out. why? i’m a former transcriber and those are very important in the true essence of a speech – it could sometimes mean the difference between someone being convicted and not.

    please get someone else to do your transcribing of transcripts – this was a very dishonest display of what should be exact.

    whose side is this church on?

  8. dana says:

    Thank you for posting this.. I have been surfing the web so I could see it all night, not even on the saddleback web page. Thanks! And I’m soo for Obama, I think he’s just not as good as a public speaker as mccain, hence the pauses and umms, but i think he did say what he intended to say. I also would like to pointout that not all the questions were worded the same: different wording yielding different answers. I listened to a bunch of mccain supports at lunch today so I knew I had to see for myself. thanks again
    (and I”m a Christian in case you thought not)

  9. benMIDI says:

    Obama was very thoughtful especially on the question of evil, unlike McCain.

  10. Talitha says:

    Wow! After watching this there is NO question in my mind which one of these candiates will make a good president. McCain pretty much ran circles around Obama. He answered every question with passion and conviction! That’s what a TRUE leader is. Unlike Obama who couldn’t even utter a sentance without studdering. Thank you Saddleback church for hosting this event it was very informative.

  11. Talitha:

    Passion and conviction, huh? I can think of a few world leaders through history that had plenty of that, but you wouldn’t want them as you’re leader. My take is that I’d prefer someone who could look at at issue from multiple perspectives and make an intelligent, reasoned call. In other words, I’d prefer someone who walks humbly with his God. Don’t get me wrong, passion and conviction are immensely important, but I would tend to be cautious of someone who demonstrates those characteristics on a consistent basis. And I also don;t mind a little “studdering.” Makes me think the guy doesn’t have all the answers on tap.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Grace and Peace.

  12. Dawn says:

    Thank you for hosting the Saddleback Civil Forum videos. I found them on CNN, but I really don’t wanna give that website my traffic votes. It endorces too many things I stand against.

    I appreciate your willingness to share this feed with the public.

    Dawn

  13. Tatiana says:

    This forum was excellent and it clearly showed how much better judgement, knowledge and experience Senator McCain has to be President than Obama. Orginally I was not pleased with McCain but I am now as he has shown he is solid on everything and clearly wants the best for our Country not just to get power and push forth radical socialistic ideas. I think he did an outstanding job on answering the tough questions and he came up in my estimation immensely. There is NO DOUBT he is head and shoulders above Obama. I am now pleased to vote for him and I firmly believe the other choice is a dangerous one. It was a very pleasant surprise. Thank you Rick Warren for hosting this event so we could learn what is inside the candidate’s head. Many of us know the MSM is extremely biased and are pushing the socialist agenda and are not after the TRUTH.

  14. Ken says:

    Come on boys and girls, We’ve got one candidate who thinks it just fine to let doctors kill babies. Not just when they are “partially born” but he says it’s OK to let the “defective” ones lie on a shelf and die after they are born. The eugenics master of the Third Reich would applaud his stance.

  15. Spunky700 says:

    Having missed the forum on tv, I just spent a looooonnnngggg time watching the videos. So now maybe a presidential choice is a little easier. If the question of whom you would vote for came up, might the answers go something like this?
    Obama: Uh, ah, let me just, aaaaahhh, uh, okay, let me just say this, uh, uh, ah I can say with some specificity that I will vote. Uh, ah, ah ,um , uh, yes, I will vote.
    McCain: I know I will be voting for McCain in November.

    Me too! After the forum it sure was an easy decision.

  16. Amy says:

    Pastor Rick did such a great job at showing the differences of the candidates without making either of them looking bad. I have to say Sentator McCain won this forum hands down. Obama had style and fluff, McCain brought experience and substance.

  17. Alexander says:

    As a Christian I appreciate the efforts of Pastor Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church to seek answers to meaningful questions of Senators McCain and Obama. Albeit, I am increasingly disturbed by religious organizations that place a pseudo litmus test on candidates running for positions in local, state, and federal elections.

    Jesus said “My Kingdom is not of this world.” John 18:36 I was disappointed that Pastor Warren did not delve deeper into McCain and Obama’s spiritual beliefs.

  18. Kathy Love says:

    Well, I now have a candidate that I can support whole-heartedly!….I will be proud to sport my “vote for John McCain” bumper sticker. This is the most informative format that I’ve witnessed and I feel has given Americans an inside look into the real candidates. Hopefully, there will be more interviews like this. Thank you, Rick Warren & Saddleback Church.

  19. Anony Moose says:

    Ok so here is my take. In a side by side comparison, yep McCain ran circles around Obama. But lets look at it this way: The “cone of silence” thing, was not 100% true. Rick Warren stated in an interview later that McCain was not in the building at the start of Obama’s interview. He said that McCain was taken at his word that he did not watch and listen to the questions and answers. Now, I understand that Rick Warren is a pastor and sees good in all. But really he took a politician at his word? Especially one that has ads out that are outright lies? I mean McCain didn’t even let Rick Warren READ THE QUESTION when it came to the education question. How was it that he knew what he was going to say? McCain stumbles in a bunch of impromptu situations, but not here. That alone makes me question it. Obama could have done better yes, but was it really fair?

  20. Andrew says:

    At least Obama didn’t striaght up lie about his past to gain acceptance from the religious.

    Here is the “cross in the sand” story McCain used in a speech in 2000.

    “Many years ago a scared American prisoner of war in Vietnam was tied in torture ropes by his tormentors and left alone in an empty room to suffer through the night. Later in the evening a guard he had never spoken to entered the room and silently loosened the ropes to relieve his suffering. Just before morning, that same guard came back and re-tightened the ropes before his less humanitarian comrades returned. He never said a word to the grateful prisoner, but some months later, on a Christmas morning, as the prisoner stood alone in the prison courtyard, the same good Samaritan walked up to him and stood next to him for a few moments. Then with his sandal, the guard drew a cross in the dirt. Both prisoner and guard both stood wordlessly there for a minute or two, venerating the cross, until the guard rubbed it out and walked away.”

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht ml?res=9904EFDE1239F93AA15751C0A9669C8B6 3&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn had a similar story in his pulitzer prize winning novel, a book and a person McCain talks about extensively inn his own 2007 publication.

    “World-famous Russian author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was sent to a Siberian prison because he criticized communism. Languishing there under intolerable conditions year after year, he decided to end his life. But suicide, he firmly believed, would be against God’s will. He thought it would be better for a guard to shoot him.
    So at a public assembly of the prisoners, he sat in a front row, planning to get up and walk toward an exit, compelling a guard to kill him. But to his surprise, another prisoner sat down, blocking his exit. That unknown man leaned over and, to Solzhenitsyn’s astonishment, drew a cross on the dirt floor.
    The cross! Wondering if that fellow prisoner might be a messenger from God, Solzhenitsyn resolved to endure his imprisonment. There in prison he became a Christian and was eventually set free to bear witness to the world.”

    Whether McCain was in a “Cone of silence” or not is a moot point when it comes to lying about your faith. McCain is a sham.

  21. Noel says:

    I really think Warren was weak in his questions. Did McCain hear the questions? Was he really in a cone of silence? The Christian Right with the likes of Joyce Meyer, Copeland etc with their wealthy lifestyles from Ministry money is contrary to the principles of the Gospel. Tacky Christianity is what I see at Saddleback

  22. jam24u says:

    This is the procedure of the future for the public to get an honest appraisal of the candidates abilities and positions. Taking the forum away from the control of the major media networks removed a bias in questions and forcing responses that are not read off a telepromter. Declarations of McCain cheating were expected then it was discovered that Obama had three questions in advance and McCain only discredited that claim. Interesting how there has been a low profile taken by the major tv networks about this forum. McCain was clearly the winner and this is because of his experience. Obama has what, 142 days in the senate and is clearly a puppet of some of the democratic leadership. More forums like this should be required for an honest assesment of the candidates. Trouble is, after what happened is to get Obama and his advisors to agree to it. This may very well have been the last of these that will see this year.

  23. jam24u says:

    correction mr. warren confirmed that his intent was to give the first 2 questions to both candidates, however he said the he gave obama 3 questions in advance and because mccain had arrived in a cone of silence and moved directly to a soundproof room, was only able to get 1 of the questions in advance. the cheating claim has been disproved and in fact backfired on those making such claims.

  24. Barbara Shipman says:

    This has been extremely helpful in my decision as to who to vote for thank you so much. Will I be able to view this again and again before the election?

    In Christ Name,

    Barb Shipman

  25. Okay, let me see! If McCain is sure and confident about his answers demonstrating a strong grasp of each issue – he cheated. If Obama cannot muster a stance other than his lightweight answers carefully crafted with his ah’s, uh’s um’s, etc to sound cerebral, but coming across as weak.

    McCain has conviction ans Obama apparently has none.

    http://brokengovernment.wordpress.com

  26. Barbara Shipman says:

    After reading some of these comments I would like to say that I was disappointed in both of the answers on wise counsel. Neither one seems to have truly a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. They didn’t mention the Bible (Absolute Truth) or prayer to the living God as a wise counsel. President Bush did this and testified to it many times, I know this is what has sustained him through a most dificulte presidency. I wish every seat in the House and Senate could be voted on after a forum like this. My prayer is for the men and women of these branches.
    Thank you Rick for doing this, I know God will honor it.
    Barb

  27. Micah says:

    I just finished watching this forum. It is a great way to really understand a presidential candidate. I would take issue with those of you who say Obama looked bad. I am not really an Obama fan, I have voted Republican all my life. As a young man though i would argue that Obama came off looking more authentic and real, and McCain came off looking like he was spouting off his “stump speech.” I think it does have to deal with experience, and it just comes across that McCain has been a politician for so long he can’t have a normal and real conversation with the American people. I think Obama’s while not as polished came across more authentic and real.

    Overall a great forum, to help Americans see who they are voting for.

  28. PC Leavere says:

    think of it this way; Which of these men would you feel more confident going to if you had an important personal decision in life to make? which of these men would be more objective and help you make a decision based on a broader perspective of life? Now…which of these men would you expect to more likely be out partying or on the beach? If our nation needs a leader of strength and unwavering resolve concerning national and international affairs the decision is obvious. Who’s out for show and who’s out to do whatever is necessary to help our nation and people succeed?

  29. Linda says:

    Spunky700 – That was great!!!
    Senator McCain did so well because he was in his element… He opens himself to Q&A sessions all the time. Ironically, because he did so well, he had to be cheating. If the media gave McCain 1/3 of the positive coverage given Obama, people would know who he truly is. I believe with the disturbing act of aggression of Russia against Georgia, we will need someone who is as decisive as McCain.

    Obama’s element is being exalted in front of thousands, with a teleprompter, so most who are inspired could care less what he stands for. The messiah treatment was what bothered me most, esp., in contrast with his extreme pro-choice views. (As Illinois state senator he blocked the passing of a bill (2001 – 2003) to give medial care for born alive aborted babies; the same bill Pres. Bush signed into law in 2002 after 100% vote from the senate.) So it’s understandable why he couldn’t answer when “a baby has human rights”. So how can we trust him to lead our country when he says this is “above his pay grade”? He could at least have said, “if the baby’s wanted”. Even with his 300 consultants, he scares the heck out of me!

  30. terry in maine says:

    Along with other prisoners, he worked in the fields day after day, in rain and sun, during summer and winter. His life appeared to be nothing more than backbreaking labor and slow starvation. The intense suffering reduced him to a state of despair.
    On one particular day, the hopelessness of his situation became too much for him. He saw no reason to continue his struggle, no reason to keep on living. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.
    Leaving his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel. He had seen it happen to other prisoners.
    As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him. The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.
    As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.
    Solzhenitsyn slowly rose to his feet, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Outwardly, nothing had changed. Inside, he had received hope.
    [From Luke Veronis, "The Sign of the Cross"; Communion, issue 8, Pascha 1997.]
    excerpted from “The Gulag Archipelago” by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

  31. Susan Whittlesey says:

    Although I was impressed with McCain’s answers and feel somewhat comforted in his ability to govern our nation were he to win, I was more impressed with Obama’s thoughtful answers and his recognition of another point of view. I feel more comfortable engaged in a conversation with someone who gives a considered answer, as Obama did, than with someone who throws out a quick answer, as McCain did. It was obvious that McCain was “preaching to the choir”. Nevertheless, the “choir” was respectful with Obama and seemed even to agree with him now and then. May I also say that I feel Rick Warren was fair and delightful.

  32. suezq says:

    Thank you for posting this. I just watched it in it’s entirety. I must say I was disappointed with Barack’s stuttering but believe he is a level-headed man. But I was scared straight with how war-happy John McCain is. I could never support McCain knowing my child or grandchild would be sent to fight anyone he deemed “the enemy”. He also worships George Bush, who I believe was the absolute worse president this country has ever had. I did agree with the school choice answer he gave however. I wish there was a “none of the above” box on my ballot. I do not think we have the best leader for this country in the running.

  33. Rebecca says:

    I’m suprised how people can even hint at the slightest idea that mccain “cheated”. It’s amazing how people say anything to make themselves look and fell better. It’s also unbelievable how people are saying they prefer obamas thoughtful answers. seriously people, watch the clips, the man is stumped and unable to answer most the questions in a timely manner… if you added up the hm,ehemms,ums, and wells, it would equal about 40% of his time spent talking with rick warren. i want a president that knows where he stands and doesn’t hesitate when asked important questions.

  34. dana says:

    Ok I must say something else… I am a Christian, I am prochoice, and I have been raped. You can be a Christian and prochoice. Its all a matter of when you believe a soul enters a zygote. More importantly to me is if I had gotten pregant, there is no way I could have lived with his baby in me.. YOU CAN BE BOTH A CHRISTIAN AND PROCHOICE. It makes me sad to here so many people assume that because Obama is not prolife, he’s not a christian. And if you were put on the spot, what would you say? I just will never understand how Christians can be so hateful towards democrats and so forgiving towards republicans.

  35. Nic says:

    This forum was increadibly insightful and found it an interesting format to asses these men. Obama seemed airy as usual but it felt like to me that he didnt know how to convey his thoughts in the way he wished, probably due to the fact that he lacks experiance compared to McCain. However while watching McCain he knew what he thought and was not afraid to stake his claim on what he believed. I have always had a hard time chooseing between these two but I’m leaning twards McCain considering the time we live in. I am a registered Republican but that doesn’t mean i can’t be reasonable or logical. I find it funny how people chose to point out advatages or disadvatages like “McCain cheated” or “Obama knew more questions from the start” it really doesnt matter and although their both polititions they both deserve the same creadit as men. On the note of education I agreed with Obama entirely, I also agreed with him on taxes as well; Although I could see the ideal McCain was presenting. Everyone has to dive into the sticky grounds when it comes to abortion. I personally believe that the life begins at conception without a doubt I am a Christian myself and I’ll claim to know this as a fact. But i find it hard to say abortion is wrong or should be illegal because given situations I could deem it apropriate, so that’s my stand. And one last point I’ll make is that America in order to achieve peace or any sort of security we do need to be strong. We need to lead in power, money, influence, and ideals. I don’t personaly like war but war has a very real part in international life it is impossible to maintain anysense of freedom without the willingness to fight for it and to seethrough a decicions previously made. Steping down from my soap box now *teh* thank you for listening to my opinion that’s what makes America and the Internet so great.

  36. I am an Independent voter and while living in Arizona for 15 years, I twice voted for John McCain. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR Mr. McCAIN AGAIN. Pastor Rick Warren perpetuated a LIE at the introduction of the forum and as he began his interview with Senator McCain by both times referencing the “Cone of Silence” that Mr. McCain was supposedly occupying! I KNOW JOHN McCAIN CANNOT THINK FAST ENOUGH TO ANSWER ALL THE TOUGH QUESTIONS POSED TO HIM BY PASTOR WARREN AS QUICKLY AS HE DID WITHOUT PRIRO COACHING FROM HIS STAFF!!

    The Apostle John used the word “TRUTH” ~45 times in his gospel. With that in mind, consider the following Ms. Rebecca:

    1. “Members of the McCain campaign staff, who flew here Sunday from California, said Mr. McCain was in his motorcade on the way to the church as Mr. Obama was being interviewed by the Rev. Rick Warren, the author of the best-selling book “The Purpose Driven Life.” By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE — The NY Times

    2. “Pastor Warren, the host of last night’s forum was just on CNN. In an interview with Rick Sanchez the pastor admitted McCain was not even at the Church for the first half hour of the event. This admission comes as a surprise to those of us who watched the event and were told many times that McCain was at the Church and in isolation. CNN says they talked to McCain’s camp and they said no one in his camp was listening. The honor system, are you kidding me? I think it is pretty clear at this point McCain did indeed know the questions in advance.” — Partial quote from The Huffington Post 8/19/2008, by Linda Bergthold

    3. McCain campaign, Obama campaign, NBC go back-and-forth over ‘faith forum.’ — The “cone of silence” story continued to dog Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) Monday.The McCain campaign criticized NBC in a letter to the network after Andrea Mitchell on Meet the Press Sunday raised the criticisms of the camp of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) that McCain might have had an advantage in a “faith forum” over the weekend during which both candidates were asked the same questions, with Obama going first. The story surfaced throughout the day on CNN. By John Eggerton — Broadcasting & Cable, 8/18/2008 5:03:00 PM

    Senator McCain had to know some of the questions in advance especially considering how quickly he answered the question on education!

  37. terry in maine says:

    nic you have this correct “an interesting format t(w)o asses these men” :)

    Abortion regardless of your position on when life begins is a terrible choice. One I’m sure most woman do not take lightly. Sure there are probably a few that have had multiple procedures and think nothing of it, other than its a birth-control method.

    However, this is and should be a (legal) medical procedure and a moral choice. It has no place in politics. It is a protected right of privacy. Republicans claim to support limited government and less government intrution into our life, yet, they are the first to accept government into the privacy of the doctor’s office, the bedroom, the phone and knowing about their neighbor ( patriot act, go after my neighbor but not me ).

    The moral choices we all make will come under review by the One in our day of judgement. We should be more concerned about our own choices and not that of others.

    Jesus instructs us to judge mercifully:

    Remember the words of Jesus in Matthew 7:2: “For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” You’ll reap what you sow (Gal. 6:7-8). If you are swift and harsh in judging others, then God will see to it that you receive the same from others. Has God not been very merciful to you, even though you deserved it not? Likewise, you should exercise mercy toward others.

    judge yourself first:

    In Matthew 7:4-5, Jesus says, ” Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” A good judge will not fail to judge himself.

    We are all sinners and can take comfort in an all forgiving God.

    And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

  38. Dave says:

    I’ve only been through about half of the video provided (thank you, Trevin, for providing the YouTube links!) and the thing that strikes me is how evasive Obama was in answering many of the questions. I believe the term is “ducking”. He never did answer the question about the point at which human rights begin; he blew his time expounding on why he thinks women need this so-called “choice”. He probably ducked that question because he knows his position would be indefensible if he were to admit what is so obvious about life beginning at conception.

    Another thing that’s bothersome about Obama is his insistence that it’s somehow the government’s role to ensure that the needs “of the least of these” is met; somehow I don’t think that’s quite what Jesus meant.

  39. Dave says:

    BTW, @clifford; it’s pretty obvious from watching both men answer the questions that they knew what Rick was going to ask ahead of time. The way these things usually go is the moderator gives a copy of all the possible questions to each candidate’s staff, then they answer the questions in writing and send them back to the moderator; that way there are no surprises for anyone on the stage, except which particular questions are chosen.

    @ terry in maine: The abortion issue belongs in the realm of law, and because it has not been allowed there because of the kind of reasoning you brought up, it ends up in politics. Why is killing an unborn child allowed when killing one that’s even a day old is not? There’s no question that many women end up in difficult circumstances, but that shouldn’t justify the killing of an unborn child. Is it any more judgmental to say it’s wrong to abort an unborn child than to kill a child born a month ago?

  40. Helen says:

    Thank you so much for posting this. I was not able to watch over theweek end and have seache all morning for this. Thank you so much. It has been one of the best formats I have seen. I think I now know who I will be voting for in November.

  41. Jerry says:

    I believe that your format for this forum, incorporating the “cone of silence” for the opposing speaker is a model that should be adopted by all networks and talk shows involved with discussion topics.

    Thank you.

    Jerry

  42. terry in maine says:

    @dave

    Is it any more judgmental to say it’s wrong to abort an unborn child than to kill a child born a month ago?

    how jugemental is the death penalty or war. we tend to accept abortion in the 100th tri-mester but not in the 1st.

  43. sulin says:

    Thank you for posting this! I was only able to see the McCain portion and am so glad you posted this so I could see for myself how Obama answered.

    I actually attended one of McCain’s Town Hall events and this man can/does think very quickly on his feet. During the town hall, he gave a brief speech (using the teleprompter) and it was so difficult to watch. McCain does his best when he can interact with people. I was very impressed by his ability to field hostile questions and answer them respectfully and honestly.

    I agree with those who’ve said he answered so quickly because he knows where he stands. I witnessed this in person. When he was asked a question he was answered almost without thinking.

    I was hoping that his personality and wit would be able to come through during this forum and was pleased to see that it did.

    McCain is definitely my choice for president …especially given his Pro-Life stance.

    Remember, the next president will likely appoint 2-3 Supreme Court Judges. I think this is vitally important for all Christians to remember.

    I believe it’s important for everyone who believes in the Bible and believes that killing innocent babies is wrong to vote McCain. Even if you disagree with his other policies, at least he’s promised to nominate pro-LIFE judges.

  44. Lori says:

    Thanks for posting this. I have referred this to friends who missed the forum and want to sese it.

  45. Dave says:

    Want to know what is SO distorted about Christianity today? See the comment below that was taken from comment #37.

    Neither one seems to have truly a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. They didn’t mention the Bible (Absolute Truth) or prayer to the living God as a wise counsel. President Bush did this and testified to it many times, I know this is what has sustained him through
    a most dificulte presidency.

    So…….Bush depended on Jesus to ‘affirm’ that he should authorize the killing of innocent people and slash programs for the underprivileged while giving OODLES of breaks to the rich?
    This is what is so wrong with our country today. I am a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN and have studied the Bible profusely. How people end up with their right wing, conservative Christian agenda is absolutely mind boggling. Try Reading ‘Jesus for President’ sometime. It is truly enlightening.

  46. terry in maine says:

    McCains answer to the question about his hardest decision while very moving the final trailing reply came across as an after thought. as something his handlers had coached him to say and work into his reply. ( granted there was some applause to wait for, but there was a definate end to the answer before that ).

    But I said no, and I’ll never forget sitting in my last answer, and the high-ranking officer offered it, slammed the door and the interrogator said, “Go back to your cell. It’s going to be very tough on you now.” And it was. But not only the toughest decision I ever made, but I am most happy about that decision, than any decision I’ve ever made in my life. (APPLAUSE).

    WARREN: Great, great.

    MCCAIN: Could I finally say, it took a lot of prayer? It took a lot of prayer

    Credibility of the proceedings is also lacking when it starts out as a white lie./

    Now, what I decided is to allow for proper comparison, I’m going to ask identical questions to each of these candidates. So you can compare apples to apples. Now, Senator Obama is going to go first. We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence.

    McCains answers came across as to scripted, short on detail and response.

    McCains christmas story seems very fami-liar to item 41.

    MCCAIN: The Vietnamese kept us in prison in conditions of solitary confinement, or two or three to a cell. They did that because they knew they could break down our resistance. One of the techniques that they used to get information was to take ropes and tie them around your biceps, loop the rope around your head and pull it down beneath your knees and leave you in that position. You can imagine it’s very uncomfortable.

    One night, I was being punished in that fashion. All of sudden the door of the cell opened and the guard came in. The guy who was just — what we call the gun guard — just walked around the camp with the gun on his shoulder. He went like this and loosened the ropes. He came back about four hours later and tightened them up again and left.

    The following Christmas, because it was Christmas day, we were allowed to stand outside of our cell for a few minutes. In those days we were not allowed to see or communicate with each other, although we certainly did. And I was standing outside, for my few minutes outside at my cell. He came walking up. He stood there for a minute, and with his sandal on the dirt in the courtyard, he drew a cross and he stood there. And a minute later, he rubbed it out, and walked away.

    For a minute there, there was just two Christians worshipping together. I’ll never forget that moment. (APPLAUSE). So every day.

  47. Cynthia says:

    #22 I’m sure you voted for Bush who is not a smart man, and not the brightest, articulate person ever. We don’t need another 4 to 8 years more of Bush. We Americans have suffered long enough with Republican President Bush, which McCain has supported. Keep in mind – McCain supported Bush with all the obvious lies for weapons of mass destruction, the scare tactics with the so-called terroism to justify for the so-call war which thousands of innocent young men and women lost their lives, and loss of limbs; and with the lack of compensation, benefits, and insurance to pay their hospital bills for their injuries, surgery, and physical therapy. Bush and McCain do not care about our soldiers and are not for the people. These soldiers could be one of your loved ones. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Look at the economy! We definitely DO NOT NEED MCCAIN for our next President. McCain will be another recycle of Bush.

  48. Mo says:

    I don’t know how anyone can watch these videos and still not see who the more qualified candidate is.

    Talk is cheap, so it still follows what each will do. But as to what was said here today and how it was said, there’s no doubt that McCain wiped the floor with Obama. No contest.

  49. maddy says:

    Its simple…McCain should be president. Obama can’t even think straight under this kind, good-hearted pressure from Warren. When he’s squeezed by the likes of Osama or Putin will he be able to utter a word, let alone defend us???

  50. Gene, Florida says:

    Pastor Rick was the perfect host for this “faith forum”. Both men respect and admire him for his honesty and fairness. I saw the forum live but it was not until I read the transcripts that one person stood out. I was impressed to hear candidate one say: “Jesus died for my sins and I am reedeemed; “marriage is sacred, God is in the mix”; “I do not walk alone”; “walking humbly with God”; “trying to do God’s work”; “we can’t erase evil, that is God’s task” as well as a scripture reference from Matthew. I was disappointed that candidate two merely said: “I’m saved and forgiven”, “it took a lot of prayer” and “thank God” (for faith based workers in New Orleans) The “faith forum”, revealed the candidate with the most faith. One who I will cast my ballot, in faith, for CHANGE.

  51. terry in maine says:

    “I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”

    “Worth the Fighting For” John McCain

    “Behind all of these claims and positions by Senator Obama lies the ambition to be president.”

    VFW speech John McCain

    John McCain being clear when not being pressured

    And also I feel that — and I’m not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together,” McCain added. “You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don’t think that that would necessarily would rule Tom Ridge out.”

    I have a 25 year record pro-life record in the Congress, in the Senate, and as President of the United States I will be a pro-life president, and this presidency will have pro-life policies. That’s my commitment. That’s my commitment to you.

    today his campaign:

    John McCain is sounding out Republican officials on the consequences of picking a pro-choice vice president, the National Review reports:

    NR has learned that the McCain campaign has been calling key state GOP officials around the country the last couple of days and sounding them out about the consequences of a pro-choice VP pick. The campaign is asking about the reaction of conservative grass-roots activists to such a pick and whether a pro-choicer can be sold to them. This is an indication that the McCain campaign is serious about the possibility of a pro-choice VP nominee and that McCain leaving the door open to Tom Ridge last week may not have been merely a friendly nod to a longtime supporter.

  52. Gary Macquire says:

    Thanks for posting this. It was very informative. I am a long time fan of John McCain. I will be voting for him and I think anyone who sees these videos would be hard pressed not to understand why I support him. He is very strong on he issues that matter most to me. God Bless Pastor Rick for having this forum.

  53. Harry says:

    This is in response to Anony Moose, Cynthia of comment 60, and this forum.
    First of all Rick Warren gave both of them 2 questions he would ask them, if you remember, Obama said he kind of cheated, because he studied that subject, referring to 140,000,000 orphans. you should really pay better attention, and get more facts before making accusations that you can not substantiate. That alone causes your statement that John McCain has ads that are outright lies, no validity what so ever.
    As far as it being fair, my opinion is yes.
    McCain has offered Obama the chance to debate him in town hall meetings and at first Obama said yes. Now that it comes down to it, he changed his mind. I’d avoid the spanking to, I guess!
    His lack of confidence to debate McCain, is reason enough alone to assess that Obama is not the person I want running this country. Now I am not a religious man, but I respect others beliefs. I do not believe you have to be religious to run this country well, but I do believe you must have morals, and there is no stronger standard of morals anywhere, then religion. On that note anyone that thinks using abortion as a form of birth control, has no morals. Anyone that votes to allow someone to use abortion as birth control, has no morals. I smell a hypocrite. Anyone that says they are a christian, and in the same breath say he is pro-choice is a hypocrite. It truly amazes me when I read some of these comments. How can anyone that has followed both Obama, and McCain’s run for the whitehouse think that Obama has the right stuff to be our president. How do higher taxes help the people. How does rhetoric help the people. How does attempting to buy votes with a little thousand dollar check, paid for by the oil companies, help the people. What do you think the oil companies are going to do, just eat it. I don’t think so. They will raise the price of their goods. Bush lowered taxes, and generated over 500 billion dollars more to the federal government.
    You can not tax a country into prosperity.
    As for Cynthia of comment 60. You must be young, and do not remeber Jimmy Carter. His economy made this one look like Disney World, and Obama is just a black Jimmy Carter. I love the way you throw around the word lie, when you obviously do not even know the definition. Allow me to clarify; To say someone lied, is to say you know with out a doubt that George W. Bush knew at the time he said it that it was a lie, and said it anyways. There is no possible way you can honestly say that. On top of that, there was 500 tons of non-enriched uranium found in Iraq, there was some partially enriched uranium, that could make a dirty bomb, along with blueprints, and parts for a gas centrifuge. Just so you know, that is what you use to make weapons grade enriched uranium. It is better to be thought of as stupid then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Unfortunately for you, you opened your mouth, so it’s too late. Untill you lose someone to the war like me, your uneducated analysis just makes you look even more stupid, if thats possible, which I doubt. My brother died for your freedom, but people like you do not understand that freedom isn’t free.
    You might as well spit in my brothers face. When our troops are at war, you do not under any circumstances diminish their reasons for being there, nor do you disrespect the their president.
    As for this forum it was awesome, and McCain mopped the floor with your messiah. If I had any doubts about mcCain, they are gone now.
    McCain is the man.
    Harry

    Ok so here is my take. In a side by side comparison, yep McCain ran circles around Obama. But lets look at it this way: The “cone of silence” thing, was not 100% true. Rick Warren stated in an interview later that McCain was not in the building at the start of Obama’s interview. He said that McCain was taken at his word that he did not watch and listen to the questions and answers. Now, I understand that Rick Warren is a pastor and sees good in all. But really he took a politician at his word? Especially one that has ads out that are outright lies? I mean McCain didn’t even let Rick Warren READ THE QUESTION when it came to the education question. How was it that he knew what he was going to say? McCain stumbles in a bunch of impromptu situations, but not here. That alone makes me question it. Obama could have done better yes, but was it really fair?

    Comment by Anony Moose — August 18, 2008 @ 3:45 pm

  54. Harry says:

    This is in response to Anony Moose, Cynthia of comment 60, and this forum.
    First of all Rick Warren gave both of them 2 questions he would ask them, if you remember, Obama said he kind of cheated, because he studied that subject, referring to 140,000,000 orphans. you should really pay better attention, and get more facts before making accusations that you can not substantiate. That alone causes your statement that John McCain has ads that are outright lies, no validity what so ever.
    As far as it being fair, my opinion is yes.
    McCain has offered Obama the chance to debate him in town hall meetings and at first Obama said yes. Now that it comes down to it, he changed his mind. I’d avoid the spanking to, I guess!
    His lack of confidence to debate McCain, is reason enough alone to assess that Obama is not the person I want running this country. Now I am not a religious man, but I respect others beliefs. I do not believe you have to be religious to run this country well, but I do believe you must have morals, and there is no stronger standard of morals anywhere, then religion. On that note anyone that thinks using abortion as a form of birth control, has no morals. Anyone that votes to allow someone to use abortion as birth control, has no morals. I smell a hypocrite. Anyone that says they are a christian, and in the same breath say he is pro-choice is a hypocrite. It truly amazes me when I read some of these comments. How can anyone that has followed both Obama, and McCain’s run for the whitehouse think that Obama has the right stuff to be our president. How do higher taxes help the people. How does rhetoric help the people. How does attempting to buy votes with a little thousand dollar check, paid for by the oil companies, help the people. What do you think the oil companies are going to do, just eat it. I don’t think so. They will raise the price of their goods. Bush lowered taxes, and generated over 500 billion dollars more to the federal government.
    You can not tax a country into prosperity.
    As for Cynthia of comment 60. You must be young, and do not remeber Jimmy Carter. His economy made this one look like Disney World, and Obama is just a black Jimmy Carter. I love the way you throw around the word lie, when you obviously do not even know the definition. Allow me to clarify; To say someone lied, is to say you know with out a doubt that George W. Bush knew at the time he said it that it was a lie, and said it anyways. There is no possible way you can honestly say that. On top of that, there was 500 tons of non-enriched uranium found in Iraq, there was some partially enriched uranium, that could make a dirty bomb, along with blueprints, and parts for a gas centrifuge. Just so you know, that is what you use to make weapons grade enriched uranium. It is better to be thought of as stupid then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Unfortunately for you, you opened your mouth, so it’s too late. Untill you lose someone to the war like me, your uneducated analysis just makes you look even more stupid, if thats possible, which I doubt. My brother died for your freedom, but people like you do not understand that freedom isn’t free.
    You might as well spit in my brothers face. When our troops are at war, you do not under any circumstances diminish their reasons for being there, nor do you disrespect the their president.
    As for this forum it was awesome, and McCain mopped the floor with your messiah. If I had any doubts about mcCain, they are gone now.
    McCain is the man.
    Harry

  55. Dan says:

    This was so much better than any main steam press “infomercial” debate. However, it did seem that McCain probably was telling the truth about listening through the walls. I would love to see this same format with people of varying ideologies asking the questions. We’ve seen how they responded to a “Christian” audience, What if a muslim were to pose the questions, or a corporate CEO, or even someone working a 9 to 5 minimum wage job?
    I do hope to see this format more often.

  56. Jann Benson says:

    In most of the questions that Rick Warren asked, Obama listened carefully to the question being asked, sized it up, and then addressed his attention to answering it. McCain, in contrast, didn’t focus on the question posed. He responded with something that was often off the subject, and he spoke to the audience, not to the man he supposedly was conversing with.

  57. Liz says:

    In the first clip Obama stated that he worked with McCain on campaign reform when he was new to the Senate. I am guessing that he is referring to the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act. This is a problem because the Reform Act became effective on November6th, 2002. Obama did not win a place in the US Senate until November 2004. If this was the case, his statement concerns me. Now he could also be speaking of the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007, which only amended some portions of the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995. Either way he answered vaguely enough to for people to interpret his words in accordance to their personal wishes, and gave the ability to defend with a “you must of misunderstood” response. However, he kept just enough detail to sound like an answer. I personally prefer clarity and straight-forward responses.

  58. Reddawg says:

    This is in response to Harry of comments 60 and 67. You are absolutely right, you probably are not a religious man. Neither am I so sure that you really do respect the opinions of others. If you got your morals from religion (which man invented) then you could be a law abiding christian or a radical christian who bombs abortion clinics, maiming and killing those who don’t share your views. God inscribed his word on your heart and mind which is where your morals should come from. People who have never picked up a bible have a sense of right and wrong. And, yes, you can be a christian and be pro choice (God gave us the rules and “free will” at the same time). As christians we all would like to believe that no one in our family would ever abort a child. But if a wife, daughter or sister of ours were raped by a Bin Laden or a Charles Manson we would all be at a crossroad.

    I was asked this question some years ago:

    If you were in Pontious Pilate’s courtyard on the day that the
    people voted to free Barabbas or Jesus who would you vote for?

    Without hesitating,I said “I would vote to free Jesus”.
    I lesson I learned that day is, had my side won the vote, we would have delayed or possibly denied the gift of salvation to the entire world. Sometimes, even christians have to think outside of the box.

  59. Akira says:

    Obamites here are pathetic:

    “lets look at it this way: The “cone of silence” thing, was not 100% true”

    etc

    First of all, that’s crap.

    Secondly, you’re admitting that Obama looks like an idiot.

    Oh wait, he is an idiot.

  60. Mary says:

    I found most revealing the candidates’ answers to the question, “At what moment or time does the unborn human fetus become a human person?” McCain’s answer, typical of all of his answers, was immediate and to the point. He responded, “Conception, at the moment of conception.” He was equally unequivocal in stating that his administration will definitely be a pro-life administration. Obama, on the other hand, waffled and digressed in response to the question. His initial response, that he couldn’t answer the question because he is not on the pay grade or level (?) to do so, didn’t answer the question and didn’t make sense. He did make the point that he is pro-choice, but I’m sure that means he supports the choice of the mother to kill her child. He apparently hasn’t considered that this stance deprives the fetus of choice, the choice between life and death, that the fetus is not yet equipped to make. Therefore, Obama is pro-expediency but not pro-choice. If Obama were to be elected, (God help us!) it’s a certainty that human life will be devalued, with no segment of society being safe from loss of choice. Perhaps the abortion logic will be extended to the elderly, disabled, and infirm, who may be incapacitated to the point of inability to choose. This dangerous thinking knows no bounds in application once human life is officially devalued. Historical precedent has been set for expedient termination of life by a man named Hitler, who arranged for termination of those who were deemed inferior or useless. Historical connections between Nazi or Marxist philosophy and the Black Liberation theology of Obama’s Pastor Wright and Trinity Church are worth investigating. Obama concluded the forum by stating that we will have to sacrifice, but I hope human life will not be part of that “sacrifice.” Anyone who did not see the forum can go to this URL/Website to see the video arranged in segments so that the two candidates answers can be listened to alternately: http://trevinwax.com/2008/08/17/obama-mccain-with-rick-warren-at-saddleback-forum-video/

  61. I would love to see John MacArthur answer these questions, not because I’m die-hard Mac, but because I enjoy watching him on Larry King.

  62. ok, I’ll be honest i cannot stand politics and after watching this, I really should be more aware!!

  63. #60: Cynthia, you have not seen ANYTHING if you think Bush has destroyed the economy. Wait until gas prices go up to $8, $12, or even $15 a gallon if Obama gets in. He’s even quoted in saying that he believes gas prices SHOULD be higher! Inflation is largely being driven by gas prices. The idea of saying “we can’t drill our way out of this” is as ridiculous as saying you can’t eat your way out of starvation. Top it off with jobs vanishing by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, when he raises taxes on the job creators and doubles the capital gains taxes, thus halting investment, we’re in for a world of hurt. Plus, he wants to add more entitlements, which already eat up 60% of our budget, 3 times what is spent on the military. We simply can’t afford it. Liberals like yourself and Obama have no concept of cause and effect.

    Just realize, things didn’t REALLY start to go into the tank until the Democrats took over congress, just like in the 90’s things didn’t start to take off until the Republicans took over congress. That is where the real power is.

    By saying Bush lied about WMDs is just emotional ignorance. There is a difference between being wrong and outright lying. And to say that Bush and McCain don’t care about the lives of the troops further shows your ignorance and tendency to make false statements based purely upon emotion with no grounding in logic nor reality.

  64. low and behold says:

    McCain is old and grumpy. all he wants is war.

    its funny how christians talk about saving fetuses, but going to war to get cheap oil is ok by God.

    and the oil is cheap, it is just that the oil companies have marked it up to get the largest profits ever. its the consumers that feel the pain.

  65. Allen says:

    Thanks for posting this. I wonder if Rick Warren knew that Obama was lying through his teeth in much of this forum.

  66. Karrah says:

    Let me first say, our country needs to be in deep prayer regarding the upcoming election. We have a Democratic candidate who has little to no experience, flip-flops on substantial issues, yet is worshipped as though he is the “Messiah.” The Republican candidate, though more liberal than traditional candidates in the past, has knowledge, experience, and qualifications that will enable him to take this country and lead us further, according to God’s plan; the debate with Pastor Rick Warren clearly displayed this. I want to next respond to Dana who posted earlier that you can be a Christian and vote pro-choice- what a ludicrous and absolutely vile comment! I don’t know what Bible you are reading, Dana, but the Bible according to God’s word plainly states that the murder of a human being is a sin! Being raped is something that is terribly maliciuos, but to murder an unborn baby as a result is wrong. There are other options to consider in that situation other than the murder of an unborn life. God blesses us with children; they are his and he gives them to us for a reason. I am greatly offended that you think Christians can be pro-choice; please know you are wrong on this issue.

  67. BobTheCoward says:

    I am a card-carrying Libertarian. If I had to choose between the two candidates after viewing this…Obama. That may seem strange as a libertarian but I have a good reason. At the heart of libertarianism is a moral philosophy that another individual cannot truly know what is right for another.

    Honestly, I prefer Obama’s circumspection to McCain’s concise answers. Saying you will defeat evil sounds good but indicates a certain fundamentalism that can be dangerous. It doesn’t factor in how, what resources, how to define it, all sorts of problems. Being pro-choice and legislating from that position does not really address the millions of good Americans who have in good faith decided abortion is not wrong.

    As an aside, I want to discuss the supreme court issue. If you had to appoint 9 new justices, what would be your criteria? Their position on abortion is the worst way to do it. You may receive the abortion outcome you wanted but what might America look like because you placed personal stances on a current issue above the long-term health of the nation?

    Who would I put in? The 9 most qualified (based on their law experience), knowledgable (based on their depth of their knowledge of constitutional history, politics, law) and analytical minds (I want to hear “my stance on abortion is this because of these legal precedence.” Not “Because of my personal conviction”).

    What would be the outcome of a review of Roe v Wade? It doesn’t matter. The decision reached would be a legal decision made by the people most capable of making the legal decision. More importantly, they would be in the best position to address issue that actually matter. Issues that are important for the constitutional health of this nation.

  68. terry in maine says:

    @karrah

    the Bible according to God’s word plainly states that the murder of a human being is a sin!

    Im glad to see a consistant stand on this issue.

    your against the death penalty and also against the war in Iraq

    when does life begin

    According to the bible, life begins at birth–when a baby draws its first breath. The bible defines life as “breath” in several significant passages, including the story of Adam’s creation in Genesis 2:7, when God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” Jewish law traditionally considers that personhood begins at birth.

    aborted or fetal expulsion:

    “If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

    “And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . .”–Ex. 21:22-25

    The bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.

  69. Nate says:

    This is in response to #77 and several others in regard to gas prices, taxes etc being raised when Obama gets in office. You too have short memories when Bush senior got into office he was faced with the reality of the blundering Reagan era and was forced to raise taxes. The reality is whoever gets into office McCain or Obama will need to raise taxes or cut something but it won’t be taxes.

    Wake up people The U.S. is up to it’s eyebrows in debt to China, and the War (which is over) is costing the U.S. billions a month our GDP is a joke, our dollar is weak and on top of that the U.S. is no longer a place where things are made so we don’t produce anything other than debt, and ignorance the biggest employer in the U.S. is Wal-Mart and the US Govt which makes nothing other than problems.

    Like most lemming Americans you want all the services, programs and rights but you don’t want to pay for it we just can’t print and spend money that’s what Reagan did and it didn’t work.

    We have an aging population, high crime, unequal medical care, high unemployment, a crumbling roadway infrastructure, high national debt and an educational system that has failed miserably and you thing these things can be fixed without raising taxes your dreaming.

    And earlier you read where I said the war is over… It is, when you topple a govt, destroy their military and capture and kill the leader you are no longer at war, what were doing is policing Iraq which is not what the military was designed for and though I admire the bravery of our men and women let me put something in perspective, If your 18 and your from some small town in Arkansas living in a shack barely surving and you go into the military, you didn’t do it because you love your country you did it because that was your only option to survive because like many places in America things have dried up and been shipped over seas.

    Regarding WMD even if Iraq had a nuclear weapon and it was poised to take off, there is no way the missle would have ever make to the U.S… we have weapons too boys and girls and Iraq is too far to make a strategic strike before we could intercept, however that’s not the case with N.Korea there just hours off of our West Coast

    One final note I’m sorry for your lost but your child did not die for my freedoms, they died because our unwise govt rushed to judgment wise men don’t seek to go to war and Bush is no wise man.

  70. Anon E. Moss says:

    Re, comment #74:

    Congratulations on drawing the “Obama = Hitler”, or “Democrats = Nazis” argument. Also for ignoring the nuances of the Choice/Life debate. The whole “above my pay grade” comment was an appropriate answer for the question “At what point does a baby gain human rights?” First off, Obama specified that it was from a Scientific and Theological point of view, so, in regards to comment #41, I think assuming any potential President needs at least a degree in both Theology and Human Biology is a little odd. Secondly and morally, who says when a baby gains human rights – or when a foetus is a person? As far as I’m aware, the answer doesn’t lie within the Bible – so this is a large part of the debate, and why, in fact Christians *can* be pro-choice (contrasted to comment #83). In my opinion, only God knows with 100% accuracy when a foetus becomes a person, and so a comment of “above my pay grade” would be, in my opinion, humourously appropriate.

    Re, comment #77:

    Your analogy between oil an food is as ridiculous as you claim the “can’t drill your way out” comment to be. Eventually, oil will run out, whether you make it last 10, 50, 100 years, so it makes sense to be looking for alternatives. And who cares if oil is 15$, if it’s unnecessary for power. Of course, we’re a long way off from that, but working towards it is a start. Oil won’t fix everything indefinitely (not to mention the environmental impact). As to your other comments on the economy, I won’t pretend to be an expert on the subject, so I’m gonna admit I have no comment.

  71. Sandman says:

    A past U.S. President said this, “If you tell the truth then you do not need to think about what you are going to say.” After many Psychology subjects in college and almost 50 years in a profession that requires me to evaluate (sometimes as a matter of life or death) what people tell me, I can swear by this aphorism. So watch out for those uuhhh… um… uuhhh… um… ahhh…, the downcast eyes and hands or fingers covering parts of the face. Some committed Obama ideologues wrote that this is being thoughtful. Absolutely not. Too much grasping for words by an intelligent and articulate person. In some the rabid ideology has crowded out many brain cells of objectivity. “The facts are adjusted to the ideology.” Because of this you hear these excuses: 1. McCain was too well-prepared, 2. he cheated, 3. Warren is biased, 4. the audience is biased, etc. ad infinitum and ad nauseam.

    Obama supporters, please show some sportsmanship! You can still vote for Obama. For the contributors to this forum who claimed that McCain lied about the Christmas story- they are in a class by themselves and do not need to be dignified with a comment.

    Sandman, a registerd “Uncommitted”

  72. Karrah says:

    In response to Terry in Maine…it’s always interesting how those that disagree with the pro-life stance always quote the old testament of the Bible to mark the disagreement, and very often, quote it with incorrect understanding. Let me ask you- Does something living grow? Does something living develop? I think all educated humans would agree. AT CONCEPTION, a fetus begins growing; by 8 WEEKS, a fetus has developed MANY of its vital organs. Thus, a fetus constitutes life, and the aborting of a fetus constitutes murder. Let me also add that if a woman who is pregnant is murdered, the guilty party may be charged with 2 counts of murder, yet a woman who gets pregnant by inconvinience can easily have an abortion with no consequences.

    This forum is not the place to debate abortion, but because abortion is a vital issue to those who are Christians and the issue, historically, is debated among political candidates (this is a political forum, correct), I thought it most appropriate to respond to Dana, and now to you, Terry. And yes, I am opposed to the death penalty. As for the war in Iraq, I do believe our proactiveness in combat was the right thing to do because let us all remember the loss suffered September 11; but wait…if you’re a Democrat or Liberal, I suppose the right thing to do would have been to sit back and DISCUSS the issues of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.

  73. Ronald Jefferson says:

    I found this interesting and positive right up until Pastor Warren didn’t ask McCain the same questions right out of the box in the same way with the biblical passages about leadership. From then on all we heard was a short glib answer from Mr McCain followed by a little story which was really part of the stump speech. Mr McCain’s answers were all in this form. On the question of “Does evil exist, etc” I just wanted to say, “Oh Please!” when McCain decided he’d defeat evil. AS a pastor friend of mine wrote: “The defeat of evil is in God’s hands. It was accomplished by Jesus on the cross and in his resurrection. When that will be fully realized is for God to decide. For now, we live with evil. It’s most troubling dimension is the evil within us.” Mr McCain doesn’t seem to understand that. I might even have let it all pass until the next day when I found out the “Cone of silence” was a myth. Pastor Warren, how could you all yourself first to misrepresent this and secondly to be so used? No, this conversation should two things, one that McCain can’t give an asnwer only stump speech and secondly the prevasive power of Sin that even invades any church but in this case your Saddleback (church).

  74. terry in maine says:

    @karrah

    those that disagree with the pro-life stance always quote the old testament of the Bible to mark the disagreement, and very often, quote it with incorrect understanding

    I quote scripture because the arguments from the pro-life side starts with the bible and the old testaments for selective interpretations to satisfy their own concept of that understanding.

    incorrect understanding: hardly just because it doesnt conform to your mis-understanding

    as for this “let us all remember the loss suffered September 11; but wait…if you’re a Democrat or Liberal, I suppose the right thing to do would have been to sit back and DISCUSS the issues of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism”

    yank your head out of the bush/cheney sand and look to the light of day and to the truth. Those that attacked us on 9/11 did not include Iraq or Sadam. Perhaps if we really had debated the issue there would be 4300 lives saved. oh i forgot if your republican or conservative it’s clintons fault :)

  75. Karrah says:

    Terry from Maine…this verbatum is quite interesting, I must admit. Let me first say “my head” is certainly not “in the Bush/Cheney” sand; my support is within the Bush/Cheney administration and rightly so. Can I remind you, and others that feel this way, this war and September 11 could have been prevented by the beloved Bill Clinton, and THREE times at that??? Look at the history of war, Terry, and you will see that the most senseless war ever fought by the United States, Vietnam, was plunged into by a Democrat. Need I say more? Well, yes, I’ll say this- if we had debated the issue of terrorism and used the “Democratic way of talking out the issues” seven years ago when we were attacked on our own soil, freedom as we know it would probably not exist. 9/11 proved that “talking” doesn’t work!!

    Pro-life supporters don’t “mis-understand” scripture; we use it correctly to support our stance. You have used Old Testament scripture incorrectly to support a very left-winged liberal perspective on abortion. I truly feel sad for those that cannot read the best book ever written and interpret it accurately.

  76. Jenny says:

    I thought the Saddleback forum was fabulous — it definitely made me, a very left leaning Christian, view Rich Warren in a positive light. As for the candidates, I thought they both did a good job and the forum revealed some interesting differences.
    One style difference I noticed was this: Obama answered the questions with something more like an essay–a thesis, an explanation/supporting argument, and a conclusion — while McCain answered with a conclusion and a story/anecdote. The story drew people in, perhaps more than Obama’s analysis did, and often packed greater emotional punch. The stories may have related to the conclusions McCain had just stated, but McCain seldom tied the two together explicitly. He left it to his (noticably enthusiastic) audience to make the connection as they saw fit.
    But you know what? I don’t think this country is well served by conclusory leadership by anecdote, even if it is “decisive” and “experienced.” What this country needs right now, I believe, is a leader with very strong powers of analysis (even if they aren’t always emotionally stirring) coupled with some humility and ability to see situations from multiple perspectives. In some situations (perhaps like the Forum at Saddleback, which for all its virtues may have rewarded sound bites and war stories more than analysis), humility may come off as “wishy washy” and empathy as “indecisive.” But aren’t we smart enough to see that just because an answer is quick, concise, and decisive, that doesn’t necessarily make it wise or loving?
    Just one other point: I think it might have been cool if Rick Warren had asked the people sitting in on the “conversation” to withhold their applause. It is probably difficult for us as viewers to discount the power of such positive feedback; it also transforms what was supposed to be a conversation/forum into more speechifying. Too bad.

  77. Victor says:

    Is there a video available for purchase of the forum?

  78. Harry says:

    I’m goin to respond to a couple of people, starting with nate, comment # 87
    You might want to read the declaration of independence, before you talk about some things.
    I’ll give some pieces;
    (When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.)
    This was writen in reguards to the USA, but who is to say we can not apply it as needed to other countries as well. Those who have the power to stand up against tyrants, have the responsibility, and duty to do so. We did it in Europe,and Hitler failed. We did it in Korea, and south Korea is free, Clinton did it in Somalia, and the genocide, and famine has stoped, I didn’t hear you crying like a baby when Clinton did it, and now we are doing it in Iraq. Get over it.

    To quote Thomas Jefferson
    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

    It’s obvious that the only thing you care about is yourself. It’s not about, if Iraq could have hit us with a missile, he could have hit Isreal, but that doesn’t mean much to you does it. Saddam was no different then Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, if he had gotten his hands on a nuke he would have use it. Just like Ahmadinejad will if he gets one. Your hatred of the republican party has blinded you from seeing the big picture.
    Liberalism is a disease common sense is the cure. That is a quote from Ronald Reagan. You are a moron for stating the blundering Reagan era. He did more for this country then your feeble mind can comprehend.

    This is a response to reddawg, comment #72
    First of all do you have selective reading or something. I said I DO NOT believe abortion should be used as a form of BIRTH CONTROL. What part of that did you have trouble understanding. If a woman consents to careless sex, then she should have to deal with it 9 months later. Rape, possible death to the mother from complications due to the birth, major birth defects are all exceptions to the rule. Common sense would have told you it was implied in my statement, but common sense is something democrats lack.

    This is a response to Low and behold comment # 80
    First of all you obviously failed economics. Supply, and demmand.
    Lets say your argument is true, as stupid as it is. If the oil companies have the power to jack up their prices like you so ignorantly said, what do you think they will do if your Messiah taxes the crap out of them to buy your vote by giving you your 1,000 dollar welfare check.
    Just so you know, the oil companies in 2007 made 128 billion dollars in profits. Has anyone told you what the government made off the same gas sold in 2007. 83 billion dollars, and thats just the tax we paid buying the gas, plus they get to tax the oil companies on the profits, to the tune of 47%.
    Winfall profit is defined by an entity that reaps a substantial profit thru no action or cost of their own. Now lets see the oil company, drills, extracts, refines, and ships the gas at their expense, what part of that does the government pay. NONE! So who is really reaping a winfall profit here. I would say the government.
    No investment, but a massive gain. Democrats are to stupid to run this country, and you proved it with ignorant statement. I was alive during the carter admin. Let Obama do a winfall profit tax on the oil companies, and you will see pain like you could never imagine. Ask some people what it was like at that time.
    Re; Terry in maine
    The bible may say death for murder, but it also punishes the caused miscarriage. So if punishment is required, then making it legal is going against gods will.
    However I’m not religious, but it is still wrong.
    You don’t have a problem killing babies, but your to coward to kill your enemies. My brother made a self sacrifice which will ensure his entry into heaven. He was religious, and I’m proud of him. If it was up to me, all you hate america first idiots that spit in my brother face, after his sacrifice for you idiots, would be bannished from this great country so you can see what it’s like when you are not a part of the greatest country in the world.
    That concludes my Liberal smack-down of the day.
    Harry

  79. terry in maine says:

    O my stop drinking the Kool-aid

    “Can I remind you, and others that feel this way, this war and September 11 could have been prevented by”

    Bush was in office for 9 months or to put more appropriately on vacation. had he spent more time reading and understanding The August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing titled Bin laden determined to Strike within US instead of My Pet Goat. perhaps 9/11 would still be just a day in september or a telephone number.

    Clinton went after the first WTC bombers, captured, convicted and imprisoned them and never once put the blame on daddy bush. Clinton was in office for 1 month.

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp

    May i remind you that Bush stopped going after Bin laden.

    Bin laden went from wanted dead or alive to a whatever.
    ==
    So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him

    I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

    =====

    “I truly feel sad for those that cannot read the best book ever written and interpret it accurately”

    Scholars spend years studying the Bible, and have for 2000 years it is not as straight forward in thought as you assume.

    Interpret I thought the bible required no interpretation only a literal understanding.

    God shows us the way thru jesus and his teachings. I doubt neither of us has the “pay scale” to fully understand everything in the Bible.

    While establishing the status of a fetus, this text tells us nothing about the permissibility of abortion. It is another source—the Mishnah (redacted c. 200 CE), in Tractate Ohalot—that provides us with the underlying principle: “If a woman is undergoing a perilous pregnancy, the fetus may be destroyed since her life takes precedence over its life.” When a woman’s life is in danger, abortion is permitted. However, the range of this permissibility is subject to debate and hinges on a single question: Why does the woman’s life take precedence over the fetus?

    The medieval commentator Rashi (1040-1105 CE) interprets this mishnah in terms of the verses from Exodus cited above. Accordingly, the woman’s life takes precedence over the fetus because the fetus does not have the status of a nefesh, a human being. Maimonides (1135-1204), on the other hand, believes that aborting the fetus is permissible because the fetus is considered a rodef, one who “pursues” another with the intent to kill. According to Jewish law, it is permissible to kill a rodef in order to preempt his act of murder. Because in this case the fetus threatens the life of the pregnant woman, it is permissible to abort it. These two interpretations yield the same result for this specific case—the fetus is aborted and the woman is saved—but they serve as the basis for two differing approaches to abortion in general.

    ===
    @victor let me introduce you to the internet. Its free, but you can send me money :)

    msnbc has it all or cspan

    http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=280492-1

  80. Harry says:

    Hey victor, nobody has to purchase a copy of this forum, it’s avail.@ limewire, btjunkie, emule, and many, many others for FREE. Learn to download people, or just go here;

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=179783335

    He’s helpful in these matters, plus his page might enlighten some of you liberals.
    Fair warning to the religious, his music might offend you, so go at you own risk, or turn down the volume on your computer. Remember he didn’t ask you to come there I did, be respectful, and you will get what you need.

  81. Hiddenfaces7 says:

    Straight Talk Wins Everytime! I was raised that when asked a question you gave a direct answer, not a beat around the bush and hope the questioner and anyone else listening would forget the original question.
    Thank you for the chance to see this again, the truth is very evident! God Bless America!

  82. trevinwax says:

    Let’s keep it civil, folks.

  83. terry in maine says:

    Chill harry

    You don’t have a problem killing babies, but your to coward to kill your enemies. My brother made a self sacrifice which will ensure his entry into heaven. He was religious, and I’m proud of him. If it was up to me, all you hate america first idiots that spit in my brother face, after his sacrifice for you idiots, would be bannished from this great country so you can see what it’s like when you are not a part of the greatest country in the world.
    That concludes my Liberal smack-down of the day.

    1. I do have a problem with killing babies, but i dont try to place my own morality upon others. That is for them and their God.

    2. Because I oppose this war and most wars after WWII does not mean I am a coward to kill my enemies. Constitutionally these are not wars.

    I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.
    Thomas Jefferson

    3. You quote jefferson and espouse revolution and change and yet call those that criticize bush, and the government, idiots, traitors and america haters. Your brother served and be proud in it.
    Our issue is not with him or any soldier. Look closely my friend at those that lied to him and sent him into harms way. look closer at those that could of stopped it and didnt.

    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. James Madison

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
    Thomas Jefferson

    4. He’s helpful in these matters, plus his page might enlighten some of you liberals.
    nope didnt happen. website was ok for 9 year old chicken hawk. also he has hair up his A$$.
    Limbaugh that is :)

    5. liberal smackdown; hardly was just a nice warm breeze here in maine

  84. Harry says:

    I seen your snopes page, have them snopes this, an armed drone planes camera spoted bin laden at a training camp, could have taken him out then, with the drone planes armorment, but Clinton waited to long to decide, and decided to use long range missle instead of the drone, thats why his missile attack failed.
    They did not send my brother into harms way he chose to go, because he knew the stakes were high.
    Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action.-Teddy Roosevelt. I wanted to go, but was turned down. Unlike you I’m willing to fight, and die for your freedom to shoot your mouth off about things you have no clue about.
    The citizens of Iraq would have been killed for saying stuff like you say, but not anymore, that alone is enough to justify this war, Lib.
    I love th way you armchair quarterback, what could have happened, prior to the war. What office do you hold again, that makes you privy to such info.
    By the way, first letters in names are capitalized no matter where in the sentence they are located.
    Tell me this what did Clinton accomplish in eight years besides getting head, and proving to the world he is a liar.
    By the way I emailed Rightwing with a link to here, so expect something from him soon. Moron
    Harry

  85. Anders says:

    What a useless “debate”. The different topics are only being scratched at the surface, no detail, only cheap play on emotion and populistic views which are not being properly questioned by specialists.

  86. Jacob says:

    WOW AMERICA LISTEN UP!!!! I AM A REGISTERED INDEPENDENT. I AM 24 AND I HAVE A 99.6 PERCENTILE MEMORY COMPARED WITH THE REST OF THE POPULATION ON EARTH. WHILE MOST PEOPLE CAN REMEMBER 10 NUMBERS, I CAN REMEMBER MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT FORWARDS AND THEN BACKWARDS. McCain IS NOT 24 and DOES NOT have a 99.6 percentile memory. I myself could not remember all the questions and answers i planned to give if i were told before, nevermind McCain. HE DID NOT CHEAT, THERE IS NO WAY…EVEN IF HE KNEW THE QUESTIONS, DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO REMEMBER THEM? AND THE ANSWERS TO THEM? NO, YOU DON’T. IT IS VERY HARD!!! HERE IS MY POINT AMERICA: McCain MADE OBAMA LOOK LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH’S FIRST COUSIN. IT IS VERY CLEAR, AND I MEAN CLEAR AS GLASS, THAT OBAMA IS A MORON AND NOTHING MORE, just like my governor here in Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, the one Obama took the speech from. They should be moron buddies. I thought Obama was intelligent, but he is not. And i’m an independent. I am not a democrat or a republican, I can just see when somebody is an idiot. Everyone involved in politics lies, cheats, steals…you name it, they probably do it. But McCain made Obama look like such a moron, i don’t think i would let Obama watch my dog for the weekend, nevermind be the leader of my country. Don’t try to make excuses at all…it was the most obvious thing i’ve seen in a long time. Obama is now officially a moron who likes to yell “Yes we can”. And i will not chant “Yes we can” with him anymore, and hopefully dear God you won’t either. We should say “No He Can’t be my leader”. As for war, in this day and age, we need war. People want your children, my children, my grandchildren and their children to die!!! Stop being so anti-war and acknowledge the fact that we officially live in a time period that involves war. War has been present throughout history…war made this country. War is war and war will never go away…ever!!!! And right now we have people plotting ways to kill you, your children, brothers, sisters…and it goes on…we need war right now and for a long time probably. It is unfortunate, but it is the truth. As for abortion…it should not be political, but since it is how about you don’t worry about whether or not it is legal until it plays a role in your life. I had a situation in my life where i was faced with that decision. From that situation i learned that the WORST, AND I MEAN THE WORST possible outcome is 1. the mother dies or 2. the child is born and given to foster parents. I also learned the procedure is much more dangerous for a potential mother to be than i thought. How about you don’t worry about abortion until it plays a role in your life directly…YOUR OWN LIFE. Just focus on how McCain made Obama look like a complete uh, uh, ah, uh, umm, ah, uh, umm MORON. McCain ’08 if you plan on voting. How could you still consider voting for Obama after watching that? How? I mean if you want to take your time you don’t go umm, uh, ahh…he wasn’t taking his time, he didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. Either vote for McCain, an independent or do the country a favor and don’t vote at all.

  87. Christ First says:

    McCain is an adulterer and a warmonger. He jokes about killing Iranian civilians, while Jesus said “Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you”. When the disciples tried to protect Jesus, he said “Lay down your sword, for those who live by the sword will die by the sword.” He can’t even remember how many houses he owns, while Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. McCain does not represent true Christian values in the slightest. Just ask anyone who has known him before he entered politics. His religious claims are a sham.

    Meanwhile, Obama talks about feeding the poor and healing the sick, and you criticize him for it??

    The Republicans have become experts at hijacking Christianity and using it to manipulate voters. This is what happens when you don’t have separation between church and state; the state takes over your church and uses it to control you.

    They will keep pushing the abortion issue as if it’s the only thing that matters, while behind your back they’re killing entire families of full-grown human beings to make money for their corporate friends.

    What has happened to the values of this country?

  88. sulin says:

    Seriously, Christ First? “What has happened to the values of this country?” You just answered your own question. We are allowing the slaughter of innocent babies! Abortion is not the only thing but it is a HUGE thing, at least it should be, for Christians.

    As the mother of two children who recently returned from Iraq, I can tell you I hate war!! In a perfect world there would be no war or killing, however we live in a very imperfect world and there are many who would like to destroy the U.S.

    In addition, you said that Obama is talking about feeding the poor and healing the sick…how will he do this? Socialism. I much prefer McCain’s idea of making everyone rich to having the government re-distribute America’s wealth according to Dems. values.

  89. Christ First says:

    “it’s always interesting how those that disagree with the pro-life stance always quote the old testament of the Bible to mark the disagreement, and very often, quote it with incorrect understanding. Let me ask you- Does something living grow? Does something living develop? I think all educated humans would agree. AT CONCEPTION, a fetus begins growing; by 8 WEEKS, a fetus has developed MANY of its vital organs. Thus, a fetus constitutes life, and the aborting of a fetus constitutes murder.”

    Wrong. You refuse to discuss the Bible quotes because you know that what you just said is nowhere in the Bible.

    Of course a fetus is life. Of course a zygote is life. But a sperm and egg are life, too. A chicken is life. A tree is life. When you eat a burger, you’re killing life. Does that make it murder? Of course not.

    The issue is not life, but HUMAN life. A tree is not a human. A chicken is not a human. A sperm is not a human. A fetus is not a human. Please show me in the Bible where it says that a fertilized egg has a soul. You can’t, because it’s not there. Do you really believe that God puts souls into fertilized eggs if he knows they aren’t going to implant in the uterus? Does a single-celled zygote go to heaven, despite never experiencing a single second of conscious life on Earth? Should we hold funerals for them? Jesus didn’t say “when I formed you from a sperm and egg in your mother’s womb”, he said “BEFORE I formed you in your mother’s womb”.

    For most of history, Christians have considered a fetus to not be human until it starts to be capable of movement. The idea that a fertilized egg is the same as a full-grown human was only invented in the past few decades for the rich to use as a wedge to control the religious. They tell you that liberals are “baby killers” so that you vote for conservatives and continue their policies of making money for themselves and killing innocent people.

    Show me FROM THE BIBLE where it says that a fertilized egg is a human being with a right to life. It’s not there.

    If I were you, I’d think about what the policies of this country are doing to HUMAN LIFE, not just fetuses. McCain and Bush are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings. If you were really “pro-life” you would recognize this and try to put a stop to it.

  90. Christ First says:

    “In a perfect world there would be no war or killing, however we live in a very imperfect world and there are many who would like to destroy the U.S.”

    So that legitimizes the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Show me from the Bible where Jesus sanctions war. Show me where Jesus said that Christians should create nations that war against others. What chapters? What verses? Jesus said that PEACEMAKERS are blessed, that we should love our enemies, that his kingdom is not of this world, that if someone tries to harm us, we should not fight back. We should allow them to hit us again on the other cheek. We should lay down our swords. He didn’t resist being arrested by the Romans, even though he knew it would result in his death. Show me from the words of Jesus where Bush and McCain’s murderous policies are justified.

  91. #87: Nate, I do remember when Bush senior got into office and he raised taxes, which was a STUPID thing to do! It helped cause the economy to tank. Federal revenues doubled under Reagan. Unfortunately, congress spent far more than they took in. The economy was very good when Bush Sr. took office, thanks to Reagan’s lowering of taxes. Helped get us out of the Carter mess.

    Taxes do not need to be raised. The economy needs to be grown. That plus cutting spending is the only way out of this current debt situation. The Iraq occupation is costing a pittance compared to the social welfare programs we have. The entire military is about 20% of the budget. Most of that we would be spending anyway to maintain a standing army. A full 60% of the federal budget is eaten up by the four biggest entitlements. We need to cut welfare, medicare, and medicaid in order to REALLY cut federal spending! Unleashing the private sector is the only way out of this. Raising taxes will make the problems worse.

    #88: We have over 3 lifetimes worth of known oil in this country alone, which is more than we need before we have widespread nuclear fusion available for all of our energy needs, which is about 50 years away. We need to build nuclear fission plants now, and in the mean time, drill drill drill! We can drill our way out of this. And as long as we don’t rest on our laurels while we are getting $1.59 a gallon gas again, limited supply won’t be a problem.

  92. Karrah says:

    Christ First…you really need to reconsider that screen name. For someone who puts “Christ First” you are incredibly judgemental and very inaccurate. You show me in the Bible where Jesus says that it is okay to suck out an unborn babies brain due to a mother’s inconvinience. Good luck.

  93. Danny says:

    I second that Karrah…Christ First, you are way too judgemental. Instead of criticizing, why don’t you offer a solution to this war. Wait, you probably think we should sit and talk about the issue at hand, right? That’s what Clinton thought and you see where that got us.

    And the position of pro-life only relates to abortion, not war.

  94. Terry says:

    I thought the debate was very interesting and provided insight into some important issues. McCain clearly answered each question with more poise and precision that Obama; his experience shows that he is most capable of leading the United States.

  95. Christian girl says:

    Where God and state meet is a fine line. The best way to judge a potential political candidate is by their ability to stick to their beliefs in the face of advercity. When Obama was abil to stand up and say that he was not anti-abortion in front of all us Christians I knew that his truthfullness will lead us to a better place. He is for a country filled with many diverse peoples and is understanding of that. He knows that he needs to be a leader not just to the people he is addressing at the specific time but to all people of the United States of America. And, because of his moral beliefs as well as ours he looks for alternative solutions to abortion like preventing unwanted pregnancy. I know that he can best lead this country that is made up of so many different people from different cultures, beliefs, and traditions and do something great like actually put the UNITED back into the United States of America!

  96. Anon says:

    Great forum. I have to say, it probably would have been a little more fair if McCain hadn’t known the questions ahead of time…but what can you do?

  97. Jane says:

    “And the position of pro-life only relates to abortion, not war.”

    We know. “Pro-lifers” will jump at any opportunity to kill innocent human beings, torture those who survive, and praise the leaders and soldiers responsible for the massacre. As long as it’s “war” it’s ok in God’s eyes to kill innocent children. But when it’s a clump of cells in a uterus, it’s murder. You people amaze me.

  98. Danny says:

    To Jane…What an incredibly bold and ludicrious thing to state- “Pro-lifers will jump at any opportunity to kill innocent human beings…” Do your research, Jane, and when you do, you will discover that the two issues DO NOT go hand in hand. You “libs” tend to clump things together, such as murder and war, and you forget WHY we’re at war- TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, HUMANITY, and THE SANCTITY OF OUR COUNTRY! If Clinton had done his job during his presidential years, which were pretty sad actually, we would not be at war. AND by the way…what a typical and vile thing to state, that a baby in utero is just a “clump of cells in a uterus”; you, Jane, and the ones that think as you do, AMAZE ME!

  99. Allen says:

    >Rightwing
    It’s generally better to keep your vocabulary family friendly. Besides I’m sure there are better words to use than base vulgar vocabularly.

  100. Danny says:

    Thanks for the agreement, Rightwing. One more thing, Jane- “you people” would much rather save the lives of dogs and other sickly animals than an unborn baby- too bad we weren’t all born dogs!

  101. trevinwax says:

    No one is stepping on anyone’s first ammendment rights. This is my site and I can guide the discussion the way I want to.

    I asked earlier that we keep it civil. If you are interested in carrying on the ranting and raving, you can do it elsewhere.

  102. dee4usa says:

    wow! the mc did great. I was for Hillary, but now i’m going mc all the way.

    Thanks for making this available.

  103. Nate says:

    This is in response to Harry #98, don’t quote the constitution okay a great and monumentally historical document in it’s ideas and belief, but, We The People didn’t include women and minorities ok so drop it okay I know the constituion, the other thing is all the other instances of war and conflict were never pre-emptive on our part, and as far as stopping genocide in somalia, are you aware of how long it was going on before we even intervened and how quick we got out before it was done.

    Isreal has nuclear weapon already they can defend there land just fine, and just incase you didn’t know Isreal has a decree that states if any muslim nation attacks them with nuclear weapon Isreal will nuke all muslim nations.

    And in response to 112 look if we can find money to kill thousands, and make weapons that can end life on this planet as we know it, we should be able to find money to help people and grow the country. See people like yourself and harry see things as Republican – Democrat instead of just American which I am and the biggest threat to our nation is as I stated before ignorance and fear and if you don’t help the lesser off society as whole is impacted…. Well that’s it for this forum I’m off to seek real compassionate christians who understand what Jesus meant when he said love your enemies.

    P.S. Love you harry and the unseen one

  104. Glad to find this video unedited, even though it now has cartoons added. Funny how on the U-Tube site the 10 segments have now become 12 with added banners and Bush bombings/bashings. Only the Obama supporters are entering in and changing the pure video. They must be ashamed of alowing the candidate to stand alone without added cartoons and tampering with straight forward video. I urge all to stay with the video to the 2nd hour and then try to -without going back- determine what each stand for, who has actual knowledge, and is experienced to head up a nation and spend more of our money.
    It is easy to speak Christianease terms, easy to say what you think a particular crowd wants to hear. Keep this in mind; politicians do it all the time. Listen carefully to the contradiction of teacher merit pay, but not American merit pay. Which candidate wants all to have the same amount of money- socialism.

  105. Linda says:

    I know nothing of McCain’s experiences in the POW camps. Don’t know if his story is legit or not. But he is decisive and pro-American. That speaks volumes to me. Obama is not decisive, and from other speeches, he is a world citizen. I expect him to announce being pro-American. McCain is pro-life—life beginning at conception. Obama’s speech about abortion was puppet talk from Planned Parenthood. By the way, our tax dollars should NOT pay for abortions. No one subsidizes my income. And in doing research at my child’s school, I found out that a Planned Parenthood film used in the school mentioned abortion was a form of birth-control and to have an abortion ‘quick’ if you think you are pregant. When a women is pregnant, of course it’s a human being she is carrying. I’ve never know a woman to give birth to anything else! I don’t agree with all that McCain stands for, but standing for the pre-born is one of the most important issues. Thanks for hosting the program. Would like to see more of them.

  106. Paul says:

    I am a Christian and an Independent, completely fed up with both the RNC and DNC and their parties. This is a far better forum for learning about both candidates and I applaud Pastor Rick Warren for his skill in managing the two discussions to insure that we really got to know the two men’s positions on a variety of topics. I will use the information from these discussions as well as the most recent books published by the two candidates to make an informed and independent decision about voting in November. My greatest concern is that both candidates will stray from the actual beliefs espoused during this session and pander to the DNC or RNC platforms and their absurd TV sound bites which have no regard for the truth or the candidates’ actual positions.

  107. Bonnie says:

    Thanks for this very thorough and candid presentation of both the presidential candidates. I believe I now know for whom I will vote; whereas before hearing this forum I was confused and subsequently ambivalent.

  108. Nikia says:

    McCain sounded more experienced and decisive, exactly like a seasoned politician, exactly why I likely won’t vote for him. Even if Obama is not right for the job, too weak on his positions, or unable to do his “job” it will fall to a number of people who will be working with him (or doing his job for him and at least he is surrounding himself with people from many viewpoints not just his own) whatever, at least then it will be a governance of many BY many, instead of a governance of many by ONE.

    As to the abortion issue, which I feel has no place in politics, but certain politicians use it to deflect the scutiny from REAL national issues, I simply don’t care.

    To be Christian (as I understand it, albiet probably not correctly as I am not sure what I am) is to be a sinner. So just because a person has an abortion does not make them un-christian it makes them a sinner (in the eyes of other christians, not me). So why are we, as a nation, trying to outlaw sinning, particularly when not ALL of america agrees that anyone’s rights are being violated by the sin? I would hazard to guess that 99% of america probably thinks killing a born human is a violation of that person’s rights (unless of course we count the whole death penalty issue), however the same does not go for unborn babies, (ie 99% of the population does believe that abortion violates a person’s rights, many do believe this but not 99%).

    In this country, where people come from all backgrounds, why does the faith values of one particular sect have to rule the political debate?

    Just in case any of you have not bore witness to a 12 year-old dying while giving birth to a baby (who by the way also died at 4 hours old) she never should have been forced to carry (her parents were “Christian”) or who have never treated a 17 year-old denied an abortion for septic shock 2nd to “coathanger” abortion, or given a SANE (Sexual Abuse Nursing Examination) to a young women whose only fear, after being brutally assulted by multiple men in a gang rape, was that she would never be loved by a man if they knew she aborted the attackers (probably genetically “disturbed”) fetus, I would like you to know that outlawing something is a strong stance to take against something. It is difficult to reverse when you realize that a mistake has been made, and in the time it takes to reverse it, many many people will suffer.

    I too believe that abortion as birth control is wrong, but there is a place and time in our society for EVERYTHING, even abortion. I am just more likely to let the people who are supposed to be doing the judging (everybodies different Gods) do it, and let people sin if they so choose.

    According to most of the Christians I know, we were given free-will, and HE was charged with the mission of Judging our choices made out of that free will.

    As to politics, abortion is the least of my worries when I vote, I am young and I have 5 kids(no abortions) to shepard to adulthood and I work in the medical field (RN) so my chief worries are finacial stability in the future (retirements, social security, economy), the education of these 5 young ones I have and any foster children that periodically come my way, and adequate and equitable medical care for all.

    SO, any politican or constituent that hovers over the abortion issue, losses my interest quickly!

    Also, to Harry, I too have lost an immediate family member to this war (or actually currently a “policing”), however I do not share your belifes that those who oppose the war are anti american democrats and soldier haters. I too oppose the war and I am niether of those things. My sister, brother, 2 uncles and 3 cousins have never been shown anything but support for thier role, even by those who do not support the war.

    Harry, you seem angry and are probably grieving, please seek help.

  109. john dough says:

    Pro-LIFE but Pro-DEATH penalty-doesn’t make sense!

  110. Obama Kills Babies says:

    Obama Has No Moral Clarity. Not only does Obama oppose protecting the life of unborn children, he takes the most extreme pro-abortion positions.

  111. Linda Jordan says:

    Thanks for posting the transcripts of the forum. I am so impressed by Obama and his thoughtful answers. I’m glad McCain admitted his greatest moral failure was his first marriage. To leave his sick wife and children to have an affair in Hawaii is certainly a moral and ethical failure. McCain is clearly out of touch with what is going on in America economically, and if he thinks I’m going to vote for him on the “pro life” issue, it’s not going to happen. I’m pro life too, but I’ll give my vote to someone who wants to support struggling women with childcare and education. Hate the sin, LOVE the sinner. Unconditionally. That’s what MY savior said. Jesus Christ.

  112. linda smith says:

    HELP!!!

    A friend lent us a copy of the interview that he taped. He said not to lose the tape. Well, I accidently recorded episodes of Micky Mouse over it. The reasons and possible jokes that apply here are irrevilent, I really need to get a copy of the interviw to return to him. Are there copies available to purchase, in either DVD or VHS format?

  113. Thomas A Hughes says:

    I thought the forum was great and the questions were very well chossen and asked. I am a retired member of the Air Force, a republican, and a cristian (of the catholic faith). I just wish to thank Pastor Warren for a job well done. We need to bring back the cristian faith.

  114. Shirley says:

    I watched the entire forum. All McCain answers were scripted and rehearshed. He answered most of the questions before he was asked. I recall Pastor Warren said “you’re answering before I can finish asking the question”. This is not the first time I’ve seen a interview of Senator Mccain. The Saddleback forum was not the real John McCain (unscripted).

  115. Paul says:

    McCain was fast with responses because he’s not thinking about how to respond. He already knows the answers to give that will pander best to the crowds.

    That question of evil question? He just says he’s going to defeat it and chase Obama to the gates of hell.

    What! Obama gave a really good response about the evils in our world and skipped over terrorism because calling terrorism evil is easy. He wants to point out the real problems we have at home.

    Obama doesn’t go with the easy answers. He goes with real answers. McCain goes with easy answers that aren’t realistic and are pandering.

    You want a thinking President, pick Obama. You want a pandering old man to get into office who sides with one of the worst Presidents in history, pick McCain.

  116. Chloe says:

    I appreciate this video website since I missed the Leadership and Compassion Forum at Saddleback Church August 16 with McCain and Obama. It truly validates my vote for the most qualified candidate, John McCain. His experience, compassion, forth right manner and ease was refreshing as well as eloquent. Everything I needed to hear. Thanks again.

  117. William Carr says:

    Defeating evil in the world is a very ambitious goal. Plus, evil is so darn charming in so many ways. Jesus says that there is only one narrow way…simple and filled with joy….”purity of heart is to will one thing” as Kierkegaard put it, but evil sits us down on a mountaintop and offers ever expanding visions of power and grandeur. How do we kill that Mr. McCain? Your answer is a simple one,,,,a narrow road of sorts, but is it realistic?

    When Americans rejected the Bush supported Dubai Ports deal, the only American company to respond and to take the contract was American International Group…AIG Insurance….which had no experience in international trade….or did it? Oh, it did…Cornelius Vander Starr, AIG’s founder had made a fortune in “the China Trade”….that is in shipping Opium and Heroin from China….a trade learned from the Brits during the Opium Wars…and now our armies defend the cradle of poppy production….Afganistan? Wounded men need morphine, but what about the illegal trade of illicit drugs on the streets of America as we learned of the Iran-Contras’ dope deals and their shipment to America’s youth? According to author Peter Brewton, journalism professor at Texas Tech University, home to former Education Secretary Lauro Cavasos and former head of the DEA, Karen Tandy…the same players in Iran-Contra were involved in the Savings & Loan Scandal…you remember….the Keating Five and others?

    How do we understand and respond to other people’s fears that America’s benevolent help often masks darker objectives….and how do we kill the lust for evil in the human heart?

    I believe that Christ offered the one true answer. History tells me that Christ’s way…apart from the power of God almighty… is impossible to achieve and that when we totally villify others by the acts of some, ie. the evil people who strapped bombs to mentally retarded women, we run the risk of using the full power of the US military against the innocent as well.

    Whether we are led by you or Mr. Obama…you are in my thoughts and prayers. “Greater things shall you do that I have done,” said Jesus. I pray that is true for the two of you.

    God pulled you out of Corpus Christi Bay, Mr. McCain. You had to open the canopy, but do you think for a minute that it was your actions alone that led you to the surface?

    William H Carr
    Corpus Christi, TX.

  118. Donna Angelillo says:

    The interviews were excellent. They made me understand, appreciate, and like both candidates much more!

    Although, I highly respect Barack Obama, for the SECURITY of America (among a few other reasons) my vote will most likely be for John McCain.

  119. Cynthia Cook says:

    Obama did an awesome job…at dansing around he questions.

    Far as the question of when life begins and scripture:

    Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart for my holy purpose…”

    I think maybe God believes differently.

    And my personal favorite regarding responsibility:

    Proverbs 24:11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; 12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?

    We are not going to get away with saying we didn’t know when life began when we stand before God.

    To that poor woman who was raped and became pregnant…I’m sorry for your experience but I agree that killing the other victim was not the solution. You were both victims and deserved mercy.

    I pretty much know where I believe life begins….but for those who aren’t so certain….wouldn’t it be prudent to ere on the side of caution. Like, in the case of Terri Schiavo…wouldn’t it have been okay to let her parents care for her?

    Why do you think satan hates life so?

  120. Jacob says:

    Wow, all the comments about how McCain cheated are really sad, it’s kind of like a last hope to defend Obama. Everyone talks of how McCain is so old, well then do you really expect him to be able to remember the questions if he had cheated. The fact is he did not cheat. And given that, I think anyone who wants a president that knows where he stands and doesn’t need a pre-written speech knows exactly who to vote for. His answers on off shore drilling (how it needed to happen and happen now), abortion (how he is pro-life but doesn’t think it should be illegal), and even his answer on adoption (how it should be a much easier and affordable process than it is now). McCain 08′

  121. Stefanie says:

    Typical Obama—does not answer the questions clearly. He sugar-coates his replies and, unless one listens carefully, one will not realize that he has not taken a stance, but instead babbled very strategically around answering the questions.

    I feel inspired by McCain’s responses. McCain showed a clear connection with us, the American people. When one reads the transcript and is able to compare McCain’s and Obama’s responses side-by-side, the true integrity, intelligence, and interests of each man is apparent. Obama is very much centered around himself and McCain has our nation’s best interest at heart.
    McCAIN BLEW OBAMA AWAY!!

  122. Brian Howard says:

    Thanks for posting these in one convenient place!

  123. Army Mom says:

    I was unavailable to watch the “live” version of the McCain Obama Forum, but after viewing the video clips tonight – my initial choice was solidified. McCain seems to me to be a more confident and “strong willed” candidate. I look forward to the changes his leadership will inspire. He has “hands on” experience via his military background and his POW status. He has adopted a child from another country. He has strong beliefs with regards to dealing with EVIL and I believe he has the convictions to stand strong – without hesitation – against overspending in Congress and FINALLY rallying Americans to expect more from their elected officials. The government should be working for the people – not for their own political gains – or the political gains of their friends, family or party. We need to elect a President who will work for the people, lower/middle class alike.

  124. Biff Ackley says:

    Evil? “Defeat it.” That’s what I want to hear! Here Obama is taking all this time trying to give a “thoughtful” response, when I just want to hear that you’re going to go over there, find that Osama bin Laden, and take him down! Defeat it! Defeat that evil Senator!

    And abortion? I don’t want to hear that you don’t have the scientific or philosophical knowledge to answer the question, I want you to tell me what I already know: point of conception!

    And what’s your biggest decision you reversed over the past ten years? I don’t need you to take two or three minutes to “explain” how you reversed a decision, just tell me you’re going to Drill! Drill! Drill! Heck, you only needed a month to change your mind on that one, so let’s get drilling! My car needs some gas!

    And while we’re at, let’s hear some war stories! I hadn’t heard the one about the soldier making a cross with his foot all month and it never gets old!

    Seriously, the choice is clear. Unlike Senator Obama, I don’t need to think through my response. Come election time, I know just what I’m going to do: Defeat it!

  125. Lorrie727 says:

    Kudos for YOUTUBE! Very informative…I work 24-7…difficult to catch all the debates…
    This is going to be a rollercoaster ride for the next 9 weeks!!

    Lorrie727

  126. Yorn Mcgee says:

    This type of discussion or forum, is far better than the debate format.

    I thought both candidates did well, but it was apparent that McCain has and knows his convictions. Yes, there are those who believe he listened to the whole thing on the radio prior to, but I don’t fully believe that. Anyway, to be fair, let McCain go first next time and you will see the same thing. If you have watched these candidates for the last few years, you would have seen the same thing. Obama must think through to formulate his answer, and McCain does not need to do that, except on rare occasions. McCain is the guy for this time.

    Thanks for reading.

  127. Weeper says:

    Very insightful… wish that there were more like it… even better, wish they were able to sit in the interview together…

  128. Lucinda says:

    What ever happened to the personal nature of faith and the impoliteness of even discussing it, have we forgotten what the word “personal” means?

    I usually object to hearing or using the phrase “you people” but I am going to make an exception: where did “you people” learn what little knowledge of English grammar you display? We should be addressing competent education, the security of our own borders (but not at the expense of “illegal aliens” – and what about that – in 1647 my oldest ancestor came here, to a wilderness, and through his progeny raped the Native Americans of their rule of law in favor of my family’s – very unAmerican).

    Why are we not discussing personal responsibility on a daily basis where the environment is concerned? Those WalMart and Kroger bags add up. When was the last time John McCain or Barack Obama filled their own gas tanks, at a self service pump? Or recycled anything but rhetoric?

    How many of my tax dollars are spent on the Secret Service details that are roaming the country protecting these “Presidential hopefuls” when there aren’t enough law enforcement officers in our cities and towns to protect us from other good Americans who can’t feed their families? It’s not just crack addicts committing robberies any more.

    Why do I have to carry a cooler full of sandwiches and water in the front seat of my car to feed homeless people, often veterans, at on-ramps where they beg for help?

    Historically people moved in hoards in search of food when they had depleted their own ecosystems of the ability to support their survival. How are we different regarding our willingness to fight for oil?

    The Pakistani man at the gas station I use doesn’t care about abortion, he cares about his children and their ability to learn enough English to be successful here. The American dream is about survival in the first generation, breaking even in the next and living to see one’s grandchildren prosper in the one after that. We are past that now. We are back to the beginning, a new nation of immigrants struggling to survive so that their children may succeed. “God” help them because we won’t; we’re too busy calling every one willing to step up and at least try to make a difference a liar.

    When I vote it will be for the 27 year old felon who went to prison at 19 and will work and be taxed without representation for the rest of his life because he will never be allowed to vote again. I’m voting for the Pakistani man’s children. I am voting for renewable energy, infrastructure, and education. If you are pregnant, it is your business whom you tell and what you do about it. I just don’t want you or your child to miss a meal.

    I hate this war – all war – but it will always be a fact of the human condition. I shake the hand of every veteran and serviceperson I meet and thank them for the freedom of speech that gives us all the right to disagree.

    And… I haven’t decided which candidate I’ll vote for. I’m still listening.

    Finally, as Dan Quail so elegantly put it, “What a terrible thing it is to lose your (sic) mind”.

    Lucinda, Nashville

  129. mark says:

    It is incredible how much McCain’s $5 million comment has been hacked up and taken out of context to make McCain appear as out of touch. Anyone honest will watch the entire quote and find that it is clear that he was being facetious in making the point that higher taxes will only create class warfare and stifle the economy. Lower taxes will grow the economy which in the long run will increase revenues and wear down the debt. However, that will only be achieved is spending is cut down and controlled on the other end of the equation.

  130. shaun m. dean says:

    Trevin,

    thanks for posting this!… i haven’t been able to keep up with the election stuff as much as i’d like and your post was a wonderful service.

    miss havin’ classes with you and the rest of the Nashvegas crew, but the 7 person NYC extension is serving the purpose well. :) let me know what’s been up with you and your family if you get a chance.

    in dependence on Him,

    shaun

  131. Donna Kolstad says:

    This was a wonderful forum to learn about these candidates. It sold me on Senator McCain. Obama might be good in the future but today he does not have the experience that we need.

  132. Rightwing says:

    Lucinda, I’ll tell you a story about those bums you feed. When I worked construction I stoped and offered them a job, I offered them 8 dollars an hour, they laughed at me and said they can make more then that begging right there. So you keep right on giving them sandwiches, while they have 50 dollars in their pocket. They wont spend that on food because they need that money for drugs and beer. I have no pity for them, with their boo-hoo stories. They are to sorry to work. My city like all others have something called vet space. they give them a place to stay, it’s like a group home, and all they have to do is work, and not do drugs, or drink. So pity them if you want to, but it’s futile. That is the life they have hose to live because drugs, and beer are more important to them.

  133. marie says:

    I watched the entire forum and tried to keep an open mind. I use to love John McCain in the 80’s and had gotten a little luke warm towards him because of a few differences on certain issues. That said I felt there was no comparison between Obama and McCain. I found myself growing uneasy with the long convoluted responses Obama was giving. It was almost as if Obama was trying to figure out what his response should be, trying to think it out even as he was giving his answer. Obama made me feel that he lacked either conviction or decisiveness or both . I could not help but imagine the 3 am phone call scenario and asked myself who I would feel more comfortable with taking the call- All I could imagine was Obama trying to figure out what he should give in the way of a command/response to the person or persons on the other end of the line. I fear he would give some long winded answer. I can almost hear him saying ” On one hand we could do this,on the other hand we could do that, but then again what if we did option number three.” All the while a missile was racing towards us.

    I really liked McCain and how he not only got to the point but also how well thought out his responses seemed. I may not agree with him on every issue but I like his steadfastness and resolve. He reminded of why I liked him in the first place. I am a self employed woman who struggles to make ends meet some months – I am certainly not rich but I do not want to compromise our countries economic policies with socialist economic policies so I do not like Obamas redistribution of wealth plan. I also do not like Obamas stance on late term Abortion. Regarding energy – I favor McCains approach- He is not willing to take drilling for oil off the table which I AM thrilled about -but he is also committed to exploring all other options which is wise. Make’s good sense. At the end of the day – all things considered I like McCains policies, experience and his tested character. Good opportunity to hear both candidates and fairly done.

  134. Harold says:

    I did not get to watch the program when it aired. I watched it today, twice actually, via the internet. Thanks for doing this type of Forum and STAYING in charge of the interviews.

    Regardless of how anyone decides to vote this was one of the best ways, if not the best, to give the public a chance to meet the canidates.

  135. Howard says:

    OBAMA = BETRAYAL
    Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.
    Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.
    Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.
    McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.
    You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he’s still a traitor.

  136. norman says:

    if it ain’t clear who to vote for now—you are too dumb to vote anyway!!!uh,uh ok uh uh??? uh uh!!! Anyway I thought we imprisoned murders,condemn liers,and hanged or shot terrorist in AMERICA –not vote them in for the highest office in the USA.Is that too hard or strong?Look at his record.You don’t go to a church like he went to for years and it not have any affect or influence on you.uh uh uh i guess i wil haveto stop going to my racist church and denounce my pastor to run for president uh uh !!!!yea right ..WAKE UP DEMOCRACTS!!!it ain’t all about your party winning.YOU WILL HAVE TO BE A PURE IDIOT TO VOTE FOR THIS MAN!!!that’s my opinion..take it or leave it!!!!UH UH UH UH in case you are wondering who i will vote for—IT AIN”T THE OBLAIM/OBICKER ticket

  137. Donna Winney says:

    I’m sorry, but you can NOT be a Christian and pro-abortion. Truth is measured by God’s Word and God’s standards, not by our personal opinion or life experience. The Bible clearly teaches that God knits us together in our mother’s wombs; before we are even born, God has a life plan for all of us. Thanks to medical technology (ultrasound, etc), now we have incontrovertible scientific proof that life begins at conception.

    Abortion is murder. Period. A Christian cannot be pro-murder and still bear the name. I knew a woman who was raped, not by a man, but by an army of men in Uganda. She was left for dead, but lived. And was pregnant. She knew two wrongs don’t make a right, so she gave birth to a precious boy, named Daniel, who was the joy of her life. Out of the most horrific experience imaginable, God brought something beautiful. Out of death, God brought life. The POWER in the Christian life is the POWER of seeing life through God’s perspective, rather than viewing everything from our selfish, self-centered, self-seeking perspective. Or as Rick Warren put it: “It’s not about us”

    Obama opposed a law that would require abortionists to provide medical treatment to babies who are born alive after an abortion. That alone disqualifies him from becoming president of the United States and it certainly disqualifies him from calling himself a Christian or even a moral person. How he can justify allowing a baby BORN ALIVE to suffer and die with no medical attention is unfathomable to me and should outrage any human being with a conscience.

    I am completely mystified that anyone who calls him or herself a Christian could consider voting for Obama. McCain certainly doesn’t top my list of favorite politicians, but this is a no-brainer for any Christian. Yet in a nation where 80% of the people claim to be Christian, Obama is leading in the polls. Something has gone desperately wrong with the church in this country.

  138. Leslie Coats says:

    Obama answered questions thoughtfully considering what he wants to convey. I believe he is a sincere christian. I claim that I am not for abortion; it is a sin and will discourage anyone from doing it, but I cannot control one from acting on it. I also believe that a marriage is between a man and a woman as the bible states, and will discourage it, but I cannot dictate a person from marrying another of the same sex. What if we as christians were told that we are not able to worship our Lord, wouldn’t we feel our rights our violated? I feel there’s so much judging on both sides! The best way we can lead others to Christ is by our own example and lovingly confronting a person if he is sinning. Bottom line is God is powerfull; only He can change things and do whatever He wants to do. Mccain, to me, seemed to give answers that were rehearsed over and over again to get votes not considering realistic solutions.

  139. Peter says:

    I have to get this off my chest. I saw the debate between McCain and Obama and went searching for forums, to find out what the average American thought of this debate. because sadly the next American president will still have a huge effect on the world we live in.
    And as an outsider (Dutch, and for this forum, a non-believer in a god) i find some of these comments to be just unbelievable.

    You would vote a president solely for his views on abortion??? or wether or not he thinks too long about questions??
    Yes Obama stutters at times, and yes both candidates use teleprompters. Heck both candidates hardly know what to say if it weren’t whispered in their ears by an enormous team of speechwriters, campaingmanagers and others.
    Does that really matter? is that really important?? in these comments i have read few actually comment on the issues both candidates stand for.
    It’s just scarry to think McCain would become president because he’s “more Christian”. rather then just a better candidate. The same goes for Obama. (who would have my vote, just because of the two, he is the one not holding on to his beloved old tactics and strategies formed in the Bush administration. but that’s just me)

    You would do wise to consider the views and ideas they have, then to vote on his religious conviction.

    This comment will probably not go over well with you guys. but it had to be said

    i wish you all wisdom in your choices come januari, and happiness and joy in your lives.

  140. Peter says:

    * edit: i ofcourse meant wisdom come november. voting in januari would prove to be pointless :D

  141. I agree with most, the country is in Dire Need of change. However, I feel that with a country of 300+ million people, we only have 2 lame choices. Thats the really sad part. I wish we could have more choices. Can’t wait to see the Palin-Biden-Debate. I’m sure that one will be good.

  142. peter says:

    I’m sure it will, but out of the 2 will any of them win votes? i mean from what i’ve seen so far they’re not the brightest tools in the shed. Then again, i guess you can call both of them a Tool :P
    and the scary thing about Vp’s is, is that they are solely chosen on the ability to win over votes, not wether or not they could lead a country in time of need. can you imagine McCain winning, and then something happens that would lead to Palin running the most powerful country in the world??. yikes!

    And still with only 2 lame choices, those choices still stand for certains ideas and ideals. and one of them will be closer to your heart then the other.
    to me debates are pointless. Fun, but pointless. just because noone ever really answers any questions.

  143. Webwombel says:

    Greetings from Europe!

    Folks, you cannot imagine how much I hope that th US is making a clear change in political direction on nov 4th. Yes, McCain did a good job in this interview, but please don’t lose track of the big, serious challenges we face in the next centuries:

    Quote McCain: “My friends, we are facing the transcendent challenge of the 21-century: radical Islamic extremism.”

    That’s totally mislead. This is base of the politics of the 60th and 70th of last century: Confronration, Devision of people, conducting war and fear. It would be a desaster if this direction would be continued.

    The real threatening topics are climate change, energy, water. The chances are: A net-worked world, that is coming closer together. …that, by the way, is needed to meet these challenges.

    I know that most Americans are much more patriotic then most Europeans. That’s ok and it’s good to that you are proud of your country. But are you aware that “the rest” of the world is incrasingly losing the respect for the US? Why? See above. And, the 700billion USD for the financial crisis plus the 700billion USD spent for the war would have been a much better investement if they were used for your Health Care System, for scientific and ecomonic development scheme for regenerative energy sources (solar, wind, ..) or education.
    THIS would have maintained the leadership of the US in the world.

    I was a big fan of the US. My enthusiasm died the past 8 years. I hope it’ll revive after nov 4th.
    USA, be brave – make a change,
    Wombel :-)

  144. Bill Frantzich says:

    Pastor Rick Warren,

    I believe you have changed the way to inform voters about candidates beliefs and positions on issues facing our country. In the future I trust the debates will be discontinued in favor of forums like what you have done. Please send your forum website out to all Americans so they can be better informed b/4 going to the poles to vote. Congratulations Rick & God Bless America!

    Dr Bill Frantzich

  145. Jim Bagley says:

    I found this to be, by far, the most educational format that I have ever seen. The standard square off and duke it out format has been nothing short of sickening. I am also very tired of watching negative campaigning. Rick Warren played a very neutral role, offered great questions, and has done the people of the United states a great service by producing such an educational piece and not having any mud slinging for 2 solid hours. Truly amazing.

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